- From: John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com>
- Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 07:37:37 -0500
- To: Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs@igalia.com>
- Cc: public-personalization-tf <public-personalization-tf@w3.org>, "group-aria-chairs@w3.org" <group-aria-chairs@w3.org>, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
- Message-ID: <CAKdCpxwOGVcKToZQsBWxFsdAnAM6uWbkzr8EYd+NmqhxshKF5A@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Joanie, I couldn't agree more. I have had the concerns you've mentioned about Personalisation and the ARIA WG for some time now, specifically because ARIA is intended for the AAPI's, and not for the GUI. As a member of the APA WG, the ARIA WG (I know, I've been missing in action for a while), and as I embark on a personal renewed focus around Personalisation and the attendant Task Force, I wholeheartedly agree and support this move. JF On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 4:58 PM, Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs@igalia.com> wrote: > Hi Personalization Semantics Task Force members. > > As you may be aware, the charters of the ARIA and APA Working Groups are > each about to expire. As part of the re-chartering process, both Working > Groups need to identify their proposed deliverables. Personalization > Semantics is currently listed as a deliverable of the ARIA Working > Group, and we believe it would be a better fit for everyone as an APA > deliverable. > > First and foremost are the technical aspects of implementation. In > particular: > > 1. ARIA does not control what content will be loaded. > 2. ARIA does not impact how loaded content will be displayed. > 3. ARIA information is conveyed via accessibility APIs specific to > individual platforms through mappings specs ("AAMs"). > > In other words, ARIA does not impact the experience of sighted users. > This is by design. And it seems to be the opposite of what is described > in the Personalization Semantics Explainer [1]. For instance, in section > 1.1 ("Why We Need Personalization"), it says the following: > > Some users need extra support. This can include: > * Symbols and graphics that they are familiar with > * Tooltips > * Language they understand > * Less features > * Separating advertisements, so they do not confuse them with native > content > * Keyboard short cuts > > In order to address those needs, the experience of sighted users is > necessarily impacted: Personalization by definition is to make > determinations regarding what gets included on screen, what gets > excluded, and how rendered content should appear. ARIA does not do that. > > Furthermore, achieving the Personalization needs listed above does not > require the behind-the-scenes information consumed by platform-specific > assistive technologies. You should be able to achieve Personalization > Semantics support much more quickly and easily than ARIA -- and in a way > that works in all operating systems -- via browser extensions. Indeed > there is already at least one proof of concept demonstrating this. > > It also seems that using ARIA-style states and properties is only one > proposed method of implementing the desired outcome. The Personalization > explainer lists HTML microdata and RDF/A as other potential > implementation techniques. Having this specification within the ARIA > working group seems to unnecessarily require an ARIA-style > implementation which may not be the best outcome for the specification. > > That said, Personalization Semantics is an essential module and a key > part of WAI and needs a home. If that home is not within the ARIA > Working Group, where should it be? We do think Personalization Semantics > can benefit from the support of being housed within an existing WAI > Working Group so that those working on achieving it can focus on doing > so. That, combined with the fact that APA is considering including > normative deliverables in its upcoming charter, makes us think that APA > would be a much better fit for continuing this work. > > Please let us know your thoughts on this matter. Thanks! > --Joanie and James > > [1] https://www.w3.org/TR/personalization-semantics-1.0/ > > -- John Foliot Principal Accessibility Strategist Deque Systems Inc. john.foliot@deque.com Advancing the mission of digital accessibility and inclusion
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