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Re: Sustainability of purl.org

From: David Wood <david@3roundstones.com>
Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 15:30:47 -0400
Cc: public-perma-id@w3.org
Message-Id: <5F352145-6B5D-4D66-A649-E0C3560B1C20@3roundstones.com>
To: PURLs Google Group <persistenturls@googlegroups.com>
Hi Norman,

You are correct to my mind - the social commitment is the key and that is hard to come by.  However, I would personally rather trust the LoC than OCLC for the long term due to the upheavals discussed in the library community for more than the last century.  Rapid technological advancement has strained libraries even harder as of late.

My preferred approach is to widen the social commitment and make it inherently multi-organizational in nature.  A few of us started thinking about that a few years ago and ended up with this (unimplemented) idea:
  https://code.google.com/p/persistenturls/wiki/PURLFederationArchitecture
It could be improved, but was always intended as a starting point to bring other interested parties into the mix.  The goal in brief was to have multiple organizations jointly oversee a DNS domain that would at runtime resolve to any number of peers.  Crucially, any single organization could come and go as they wished or needed to without jeopardizing the whole enterprise.

I had hoped to convince OCLC that they could become a “super-peer” for purl.org, but that didn’t happen.  There was no appetite on their side to address the concerns, much less take any action.

I’m copying the W3C Pemanent Identifier Community Group to bring them into this discussion.

Any interested parties should to subscribe to one or both lists to ease the administrative burden of manually approving each message.

W3ID folks should review this thread:
  https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/persistenturls/xEeXU76oewk

Regards,
Dave
--
http://about.me/david_wood



On May 10, 2014, at 18:22, Norman Gray <norman.x.gray@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> Greetings.
> 
> On 2014 May 10, at 23:09, Norman Gray <norman.x.gray@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> So should 'everyone' move to w3id.org?  The readme there suggests that all it takes to join in is a github pull request for with a redirect of one's choice -- is that correct?  Hmm: w3id.org/nxg/... has a ring to it.
> 
> and
> 
>> Is this the best place to have this conversation?  What to do, what to do, ...? (<-- that's not a rhetorical question)
> 
> The message <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-perma-id/2013May/0000.html> answers these questions to some extent, and I've just joined that (very quiet...) list.
> 
> I still don't want to just walk away from purl.org, though.
> 
> Norman
> 
> 
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