- From: Michael Schneider <schneid@fzi.de>
- Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 12:29:11 +0200
- To: Ian Horrocks <ian.horrocks@cs.ox.ac.uk>
- CC: Bijan Parsia <bparsia@cs.man.ac.uk>, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>, <public-owl-wg@w3.org>, "Public-Rif-Wg (E-mail)" <public-rif-wg@w3.org>, "Peter F. Patel-Schneider" <pfpschneider@gmail.com>, Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org>, "Evain, Jean-Pierre" <evain@ebu.ch>
Am 07.05.2012 00:19, schrieb Ian Horrocks: > Hi Bijan (et al), > > According to my understanding, we agreed to keep the WG alive so that we could fix any OWL 2 problems caused by changes to XSD 1.1 and update the OWL 2 Rec to reference the XSD 1.1 Rec. It was also foreseen that we could take advantage of this update to fix any editorial errata in the OWL 2 Rec. > > While I agree that the dividing line between editorial errata and substantive changes is not 100% clear, it does seem pretty obvious to me that adding support for a new datatype goes beyond the spirit of this agreement. I agree! Best, Michael > > Regards, > Ian > > > > On 4 May 2012, at 12:39, Bijan Parsia wrote: > >> On 4 May 2012, at 12:34, Ivan Herman wrote: >> [snip] >>>> New features are explicitly allowed. So we don't even have to get into what "feature" means. It's explicitly allowed. >>> >>> Sorry, you are right. But it also says: >>> >>> "For the fourth class of change (new features), W3C must follow the full process of advancing a technical report to Recommendation." >> >> As I acknowledged below: >> >> "Clearly not, afaict. We could do that, of course. We would have to have a nominal LC, CR, and PR, though these are frankly, to my mind, ridiculous." >> >> But my understanding is that that would be an *edited recommendation*, not a new recommendation. >> >> I am happy to push toward a 2.1 and I'm also happy to try to add datatypes in a non-Rec way. >> >> But surely this is a prime example of strong interpretation of the Rules getting in the way of what is a relatively minor fix. >> >> BTW, Can we add comments to the Functional Syntax as requested? I think that would be useful as well :) >> >>> http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr#rec-advance >>> >>> which means going through the whole WD-LC-CR-PR-REC route. >> >> Sure, but it can be superlightweight. (We could go straight to a short LC. Reasonable CR, then short PR.) The key bit is CR I think...i.e., we'd need to get a couple of implementations on board. But these are not profoundly tricky datatypes. (It's not like adding floats or decimals or rationals or strings). It's mostly a syntax level tweak. >> >> I think this is a very super scoped change. If we open the door any further, that would be dangerous, I agree. >> >> Let me put it another way, I think it could be a very superscoped change that nevertheless would be high value. >> >> Cheers, >> Bijan. > -- ......................................................... Dipl.-Inform. Michael Schneider Research Scientist, IPE / WIM FZI Forschungszentrum Informatik Haid-und-Neu-Str. 10–14 76131 Karlsruhe, Germany Tel.: +49 721 9654-726 Fax: +49 721 9654-727 michael.schneider@fzi.de www.fzi.de ......................................................... Forschungszentrum Informatik (FZI) an der Universität Karlsruhe Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Stiftung Az: 14-0563.1 Regierungspräsidium Karlsruhe Vorstand: Dipl. Wi.-Ing. Michael Flor, Prof. Dr. Ralf Reussner, Prof. Dr. Rudi Studer, Prof. Dr.-Ing. J. Marius Zöllner Vorsitzender des Kuratoriums: Ministerialdirigent Günther Leßnerkraus .........................................................
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