- From: Markus Krötzsch <mak@aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de>
- Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:19:08 +0200
- To: "Peter F. Patel-Schneider" <pfps@research.bell-labs.com>
- Cc: public-owl-wg@w3.org
- Message-Id: <200904080919.17418.mak@aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de>
On Mittwoch, 8. April 2009, Peter F. Patel-Schneider wrote: > From: Markus Krötzsch <mak@aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de> > Subject: Review Mapping to RDF Graphs > Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:38:07 +0200 > > > Hi Boris, hi Peter, > > > > below are my review comments for the RDF mapping. Overall, I found the > > document sufficiently clear and accessible, even if some minor glitches > > remain. My version was from this morning, so some things may overlap > > with > > Michael's comments. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Markus > > Thanks for the very detailed comments. Here are responses to most of > them---I'm deferring to Boris for a couple. Great. I agree with the below comments (including the ones that say "maybe later" -- that's exactly what I meant to suggest with "Minor") and I am happy with the according changes. Regards, Markus > > > * [Minor] Ontology O maps to RDF graph T(O), but graph G maps to > > ontology O_G; > > better use a consistent syntax (regarding the position of the parameter > > O/G)? > > There might be a possibility to fix this post-LC, as it would just be a > presentation change, but fixing now might require some delicate editing. > > > * [Editorial] Naming issues: I guess "OWL DL" should now be "OWL 1 DL" > > (see > > http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Naming). > > Done. > > > * [Editorial, minor] "word — word": AFAIK there are two ways of > > writing dashes correctly in [typesetted] English: "word—word" > > and "word – word" (or, in LaTeX: "word---word" or "word -- > > word"). > > Yeah, yeah. I'm picky about this too, but I've pretty much given up. > > There is quite a bit of variation on whether to use an m-dash or a > spaced n-dash, which may be partly a difference between Cambridge style > and Oxford style. (I prefer Oxford---Ian, strangely enough, prefers > Cambridge.) I wonder if W3C has a preference. > > > * [Minor] Section 1 and 2: Regarding the style of introducing the > > meaning of > > entity labels/placeholders: > > ** Section 1 says "*:x denotes an IRI" but this is not used in Section 2 > > where > > it says "U denotes an IRI" instead. Other notation of Section 1 (like > > "_:x") > > is used in Section 2, however. I see that "U" refers to the structural > > spec > > while "_:x" is RDF syntax; maybe introduce "*:x" only later (i.e. in > > Sec. 3)? > > These are used in Section 3. It might be better to move this bit to the > beginning of Section 3, but I'll be lazy on this one. :-) > > > ** Many other labels are used without being introduced, > > e.g. "ontologyIRI". I > > assume the current policy is to use unintroduced (mnemonic) identifiers > > whenever the meaning of the identifier is clear from the context -- > > maybe one > > could mention this. > > Might be better, but I think that the current situation is "good enough". > > > * [Minor] Section 2.1: "if the mapping of a construct refers to the > > mapping of a subconstruct" Maybe it would be clearer to say "if the > > mapping T(E) of a construct E is used in the position of a subject, > > predicate or object of a generated triple". > > Maybe, I'm not quite convinced. :-) > > > * [Editorial] Table 1 for "DisjointObjectProperties( OPE1 OPE2 )" uses > > "op1" and "op2" in the second column where "OPE1" and "OPE2" should be > > used. > > Fixed. > > > * [Minor] The second example in Section 2.2 is actually an example for > > the axiom annotations introduced only in Section 2.3. Up to that > > point, only annotations for ontologies have appeared (in Table 1). Not > > sure if this is a real problem. > > This is supposed to be illustrating the mapping of the embedded > Annotation, I think. There is a bit of a forward reference, but not a > true problem, as far as I am concerned. > > > * [Bug] Section 3: Generally, it is somewhat unfortunate that "G" is > > both the input graph and the place where remaining triples are > > stored. The outcome of the parsing, e.g., is denoted O_G, but G at the > > end of the parsing is not the same as G at the beginning of the > > parsing. So when recursively adding content to O_G while changing G, > > the expression O_G is actually different in each loop. Similar remarks > > apply to expressions like Decl(G) and Imp(G). I fear that this can > > only be solved by using another G' (or whatever) for triples that > > still require processing, although this adds more notation to the > > document. > > Yeah, a cleanup might be in order. The intent should be clear, > however. We'll try to figure out if a decent improvement can be made > here. > > > * [Editorial] Section 3: the bullet points say "curly braces { }" but > > "square brackets '[ ]'" -- use single quotes consistently. > > Fixed. > > > * [Bug?] "When a list pattern is matched to G, all variables yi and yj > > with i ≠j MUST be matched to different nodes; furthermore it MUST NOT > > be possible to match the list pattern to two maximal subsets of G such > > that some variable in the first pattern instance is matched to the > > same node as some (possibly different) variable in the second pattern > > instance." Doesn't this disallow multiple lists to have the same > > (concrete, IRI-named) elements? I guess only list bnodes should not be > > reused, while list members can (but the bnodes are the "xi" in this > > pattern, not the "yi"). > > Yes indeed. This is fixed to use the xi, and a couple words added. > Making it all completely formal is probably more difficulty that it is > worth, however. > > > * [Bug] Section 3.1.1 state that "the triple x owl:imports *:y . is > > removed from G." but also that there is a precondition that "the > > values for x and *:y have not already been considered" If it can > > actually occur that a triple is found in the parsing for which x and > > *:y have already been considered, then this triple is not removed. Is > > this intended? But I guess this simply cannot occur and the > > precondition is redundant. > > Hmm. I think that the precondition is indeed redundant, but I'll defer > to Boris on this one. > > > * [Bug] Section 3.1.1: "ontology document accessible from the IRI *:y > > is retrieved [...] The document is parsed into an RDF graph G'." There > > is some confusion of terminology here, I think: ** An "ontology > > document" according to Syntax must represent an instance of Ontology, > > and hence is never lacking its header. ** Ontology documents may have > > arbitrary encodings, so to parse them into RDF graphs, one would need > > to apply the mapping T to the extracted ontology structure. > > > > But I think "parsing" here really refers to parsing an RDF syntax > > (only RDF/XML syntax?), and the imported non-ontology document must be > > in some RDF syntax for the further steps to be meaningful. Some > > reference to an RDF spec for possible syntaxes and their parsing might > > be in order. > > Yes. Changed to remove "ontology" and fiddle with reference to SS&FS, > and then everything goes through. If the document is not in an RDF > syntax, then the RDF parsing will fail. > > > * [Bug?] Related to the previous note, 3.1.1 also mentions "an > > owl:imports triple pointing to an RDF graph G'" But the "graph" in RDF > > seems to be what the "ontology" is in OWL, and the property really > > points to an RDF document. > > graph -> document encoding, which should be adequate here. > > > * [Editorial] In Table 6, row 2, column 3, line 1 there is an additional > > final > > single quote in "*:x rdf:type owl:ObjectProperty' .'". > > Fixed. > > > * [Minor] Defintion of the set "RIND". > > ** This notation differs from others such as Imp(G) and Decl(G) where > > G is always included as an argument. Even if it is intended to > > distinguish RIND from Imp() and other notation that appears in Syntax, > > it should still depend on G. > > ** I did not find the mnemonics of "RIND" very obvious. > > ** It is somewhat strange that it is emphasised that RIND is initialised > > to the empty set. Should this also be stated for Ind(G) etc. then? > > RIND is like CE, DR, etc. They also don't mention G and are explicitly > initialized. (I'm not sure where Ind(G) appears in the mapping > document.) > > > * [Minor] Section 3.2 "This section specifies [...] the set AllDecl(G) > > of all declarations for G" This sentence is not very clear. This > > section does not say anything more about AllDecl(G), and it certainly > > does not specify it (indeed, it is already required initially in Table > > 9). Maybe one could have two sentences: one saying that the section > > defines the parsing and the resulting ontology, and another one > > stating that AllDecl(G) is defined as in Syntax. > > This needs fixing, I think, but I'm deferring to Boris. > > > * [Editorial] Section 3.2.1 I think "map an IRI or a blank node x" > > should be "map an IRI or blank node x". > > Either is acceptable, I think. > > > * [Minor] Section 3.2.1 "this is written as CE(x) = ε ..." Here "this" > > refers to a universal condition over all possible x, while the quoted > > statement refers to only one such x. > > Yeah, but a bit of informality here is OK, I think. > > > * [Editorial] Section 3.2.2: "to each IRI or a blank node x" (remove > > "a") > > Yes indeed. Fixed. > > > * [Bug] Section 3.2.4: According to Syntax, no 0-ary data ranges are > > possible, hence the cases for DataSomeValuesFrom and DataAllValuesFrom > > in Table 13 should also require that n >= 1 like it is done in Table > > 14 (based on Table 14 I assume that this is not silently assumed for > > this notation). > > Yes. Fixed. > > > * [Bug] Section 3.2.5: A similar remark applies to the last row of > > Table 18 (oneOf with at least one member). > > Yes. Fixed. > > > -- > > Markus Krötzsch > > Diffs are > > http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/index.php?title=Mapping_to_RDF_Graphs&diff= >21538&oldid=21511 > > peter -- Markus Krötzsch Institut AIFB, Universität Karlsruhe (TH), 76128 Karlsruhe phone +49 (0)721 608 7362 fax +49 (0)721 608 5998 mak@aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de www http://korrekt.org
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