- From: Alan Ruttenberg <alanruttenberg@gmail.com>
- Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 10:58:24 -0400
- To: "Hans Teijgeler" <hans.teijgeler@quicknet.nl>
- Cc: "'C Haley'" <cands589@yahoo.co.uk>, <public-owl-dev@w3.org>
Right, of course there is not reasoning support to, for example, check that you are not in two places at the same time. (or the OWL equivalent - if you are in place A and place B at the same time then A and B are the same place :) There's a SWBP draft that suggests something along the same lines, btw, http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/OEP/Time-Ontology -Alan On Sep 16, 2006, at 10:00 AM, Hans Teijgeler wrote: > Hi Chris, > > We use templates that are in essence N-ary Relations [1]. We define > template classes with the applicable property Restrictions, and > then instantiate these whenever required. > > In your case the template instance for "Peter hosted a meeting in > the office yesterday" would look like: > > <Activity rdf:ID="FACT-98232479"> > <ex:participant rdf:resource="#Peter-20060916"/> > <ex:participantType rdf:resource="#host"/> > <ex:activity rdf:resource="ACT-32874334"/> > <ex:activityType rdf:resource="#meeting"/> > <ex:activityLocation rdf:resource="#ourOffice"/> > </Activity> > > Mind you, this is a rough first cut. We define, separately, a > "temporal part" of Peter, that in fact has a beginning and an > ending. Aka of 4th dimension as referred to by Henry Story [2]. > > The meeting is, here, a "temporal whole", because we assume that > Peter did host the entire meeting. If he would have hosted only a > (temporal) part of the meeting, we would create a temporal part of > that meeting for that reason. If he would have hosted only certain > parts of the meeting (points on the agenda) we would have created a > subactivity for that reason. > > More on this you can find on our site [3] > > Regards, > Hans > > PS This is clearly OWL-Full :-) > > ____________________ > OntoConsult > Hans Teijgeler > ISO 15926 specialist > Netherlands > +31-72-509 2005 > www.InfowebML.ws > hans.teijgeler@quicknet.nl > > > [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-swbp-n-aryRelations-20040721/ > [2] http://www.tenthdimension.com/flash2.php > [3] http://www.infowebml.ws/description/ontology-for-templates/ > ontology-for-templates.htm > > > From: C Haley [mailto:cands589@yahoo.co.uk] > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 20:23 > To: public-owl-dev@w3.org > Subject: > > Hi > > I’ve been reading through the various OWL documents and from what > I’ve seen it appears that OWL is very good at representing state > information, either of classes or individuals, but does not seem to > allow for representing non-state relationships. > > For example I can use OWL to represent the concept ‘man’ as a > class, represent Peter as an instance of that class, and I can > define a property stateOfHealth, and the concept ill, and create a > triple to say stateOfHealth(Peter, ill). This is representing a > fact which defines the state of an instance. > > But suppose I want to represent the fact that Peter hosted a > meeting in the office yesterday. > > Even if I created an artificial property ‘toHost’ and a blank node > as an instance of the concept ‘meeting’, there is no way to attach > the time and location to the property. > > Also I would want this property to derive from a URI representing > the concept of ‘hosting a meeting’, but the OWL syntax seems to > require properties to derive from other properties, not from a > generic URI. So clearly this is not the correct way to represent an > action. > > Can anyone tell me if there are any recommendations or documents > describing the preferred solution to this problem? Alternatively is > this an area where the existing OWL syntax/vocabulary is likely to > be extended - is anyone actively working on this issue at present? > Are there any draft recommendations in circulation? > > Many thanks for any comments anyone can give. > > Chris > > > Win a BlackBerry device from O2 with Yahoo!. Enter now. > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.0.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/447 - Release Date: 13- > Sep-06 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.0.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 15- > Sep-06
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