Re: Request for OWL 2 vocabulary file

I would like to second Holger's request. I find that it is easiest to
approach new vocabularies by simply having its rdf description. I have
hunted the owl 2 site clicking on anything that might lead to one, only to
be disappointed with more machine-unfriendly html.

Is there a OWL 2 vocab spec in non RDF/XML RDF?

Regards,
Tim Lebo


On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Holger Knublauch <holger@topquadrant.com>wrote:

> I would appreciate if the OWL working group would deliver (and maintain) an
> RDF specification of the OWL 2 vocabulary, as discussed below, in the
> RDF/XML exchange format.  While the OWL namespace document itself cannot be
> changed at this stage, I would suggest that a new version of that file is
> placed on some other W3C site as long as OWL 2 is still evolving.
>
> Many thanks
> Holger
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: OWL 2 -- Call for Implementations, new Drafts
> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:38:58 -0700
> From: Holger Knublauch <holger@knublauch.com>
> To: public-owl-dev@w3.org
> References: <30166.1245086049@waldron> <
> 706B567E-41A8-4B94-9F70-756D6E7BBA0C@knublauch.com> <
> 0EF30CAA69519C4CB91D01481AEA06A001545F25@judith.fzi.de> <
> 32492764-3DAD-4FAB-BD5D-3F4E1D3BF58F@knublauch.com> <
> 0EF30CAA69519C4CB91D01481AEA06A001545F29@judith.fzi.de>
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> hmm, I am a bit surprised.  Assuming that OWL 2 is supposed to become
> the next version of the OWL namespace, then what were the plans to
> upgrade those online documents of the OWL vocabulary?  Shouldn't such an
> RDF file have been a primary deliverable of the working group?  After
> all, OWL is part of the Semantic Web stack in which linked data
> principles such as dereferencable URIs play some role?
>
> I'll post my request to the comments list as you propose.
>
> Thanks
> Holger
>
>
>
> Michael Schneider wrote:
>
>> Hi Holger!
>>
>> owl.owl basically determines the domains and ranges of the OWL built-in
>> properties, the super classes of the built-in classes, and the like. What
>> IMO comes closest to owl.owl in the OWL 2 spec is the informative Section
>> on
>> "Axiomatic Triples" in the OWL 2 RDF-Based Semantics:
>>
>>  <
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/CR-owl2-rdf-based-semantics-20090611/#Appendix:_A
>> xiomatic_Triples_.28Informative.29>
>>
>> But this section only describes how to receive the different triples, it
>> doesn't list them explicitly.
>>
>> If you would like to see the triples explicitly mentioned in the OWL 2
>> spec,
>> you can send a request to the OWL WG's official comment list:
>>
>>  <public-owl-comments@w3.org>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Michael
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>> From: public-owl-dev-request@w3.org [mailto:public-owl-dev-
>>> request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Holger Knublauch
>>> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 10:55 PM
>>> To: public-owl-dev@w3.org
>>> Subject: Re: OWL 2 -- Call for Implementations, new Drafts
>>>
>>> Yes, exactly.
>>>
>>> Holger
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 13, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Michael Schneider wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi Holger!
>>>>
>>>> Do you mean an equivalent to "owl.owl", the schema given in
>>>>
>>>>  <http://www.w3.org/TR/owl-ref/#appB>
>>>>
>>>> ?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: public-owl-dev-request@w3.org [mailto:public-owl-dev-
>>>>> request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Holger Knublauch
>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 10:06 PM
>>>>> To: public-owl-dev@w3.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: OWL 2 -- Call for Implementations, new Drafts
>>>>>
>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>> does anyone have a link to a file containing the new OWL 2 triples
>>>>> (in
>>>>> some RDF serialization)? I am looking for the equivalent of the file
>>>>> that is on the OWL namespace address but including the new triples.
>>>>> This file would make an OWL 2 "implementation" for RDF aware tools
>>>>> basically a no-op :)  But I didn't find it among the list of
>>>>> deliverables...
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Holger
>>>>>
>>>>>  --
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>> --
>> Dipl.-Inform. Michael Schneider
>> Research Scientist, Dept. Information Process Engineering (IPE)
>> Tel  : +49-721-9654-726
>> Fax  : +49-721-9654-727
>> Email: michael.schneider@fzi.de
>> WWW  : http://www.fzi.de/michael.schneider
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>> FZI Forschungszentrum Informatik an der Universität Karlsruhe
>> Haid-und-Neu-Str. 10-14, D-76131 Karlsruhe
>> Tel.: +49-721-9654-0, Fax: +49-721-9654-959
>> Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts, Az 14-0563.1, RP Karlsruhe
>> Vorstand: Prof. Dr.-Ing. Rüdiger Dillmann, Dipl. Wi.-Ing. Michael Flor,
>> Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. Wolffried Stucky, Prof. Dr. Rudi Studer
>> Vorsitzender des Kuratoriums: Ministerialdirigent Günther Leßnerkraus
>> =======================================================================
>>
>>
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