- From: Peter Thatcher <pthatcher@google.com>
- Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 16:25:16 -0700
- To: Bernard Aboba <Bernard.Aboba@microsoft.com>
- Cc: Robin Raymond <robin@hookflash.com>, "public-ortc@w3.org" <public-ortc@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAJrXDUFJEaf=j38_xQf9ciE_jP1h4hnWmA-CnFf1We4m99oyDA@mail.gmail.com>
So you're saying we need "H.264/MS" (which is a more appropriate name for two reasons :) is needed anyway? Well, if we need it anyway, then we don't need "supportsMultiSsrcLayering" on top of that (at least not yet). On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Bernard Aboba <Bernard.Aboba@microsoft.com> wrote: > Our implementation of H.264/SVC only supports SST-MS, so if there is a > separate name we do not need the flag. Might need the separate name anyway > because of other differences (e.g. packetization modes, PACSI NAL usage, > etc.). H.264/SVC SST-SS has a profile from UCI Forum but SST-MS does not. > > On Jul 18, 2014, at 3:45 PM, "Robin Raymond" <robin@hookflash.com> wrote: > > > As I understand it Microsoft does have need SST-MS codecs they want to > use. Right Bernard? > > This isn’t theoretical. > > I know we’d prefer to use SST-MS codecs if they become available. > > -- > Robin Raymond > > > On July 18, 2014 at 5:41:12 PM, Peter Thatcher (pthatcher@google.com) > wrote: > > We can figure that out when if it becomes a real issue. For now, it's > just a theoretical issue. > > > On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Robin Raymond <robin@hookflash.com> > wrote: > >> >> I don’t have an issue with having two codes, one which supports SST-SS >> and SST-MS. That’s perfectly fine. My concern is being able to determine >> which is which by parsing the codec name. I much prefer to have the boolean >> flag that we have now to know the operating mode of the codec SS vs MS). We >> have all we need from an API to support MS versions, we just need the flag >> in the capabilities we have now to tell us the operating mode of a >> particular SVC codec. >> >> -- >> Robin Raymond >> >> On July 18, 2014 at 4:50:47 PM, Peter Thatcher (pthatcher@google.com) >> wrote: >> >> If we ever get to the point where we need "VP8-MS", we can come up >> with a better solution if we want. I don't think it's worth adding >> complexity for a problem we may or may not have in the future. >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Bernard Aboba < >> Bernard.Aboba@microsoft.com> wrote: >> >>> If a given codec can only handle a single transport mode it is not an >>> issue. But it would be strange to have to have "VP8" and "VP8-MS" codec >>> names, one denoting SST-SS and the other SST-MS. >>> >>> On Jul 18, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Robin Raymond <notifications@github.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Maybe I don't understand the proposal but I don't like "magic" codec >>> names where I parse out meaning from the name. I'd rather have a flag and >>> be clear if the codec supports MSS vs not supported. You still need two >>> codecs in that case if the codec supports either operating mode but I don't >>> like the idea of parsing out "-mss" or something to know the codec supports >>> it. >>> >>> — >>> Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub >>> <https://github.com/openpeer/ortc/issues/108#issuecomment-49468028>. >>> >>> >> >
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