RE: Common database for type of events (with ids)

Hi Duje,

Understood. I agree.

This issue was raised previously [1], so this WA taxonomy is the basis to start with.

I’ve created a similar table [2] with that information. If you like the idea, I can push this to the community group’s repository so we will be able to improve and maintain that taxonomy based on other possible schemes. I’ve included a column for the governing body that maintains/considers these codes.

Thanks in advance.

Best,

Martin

[1] https://github.com/w3c/opentrack-cg/issues/25

[2] https://github.com/espinr/opentrack-cg/tree/master/spec/competition-types


From: Duje Bonacci [mailto:duje@trackmeetings.info]
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 5:50 PM
To: Martin Alvarez Espinar <martin.alvarez.espinar@huawei.com>; public-opentrack@w3.org
Subject: RE: Common database for type of events (with ids)

Hi Martin,

Yes, that classification. Mind you, qlthough it is originally intended to be the classification of whole events, in practice it is much more subtle.
E.g. in the program of a diamond league meeting, which is DL category, you can have a non-diamond league event, classified as A. Or you can additionally have a national discipline in program, which is classified as F (national permit) or even unclassified one, e.g. regional youth dišcipline.

So WA classification is in practice single competition classification (even finer than the classification that started this whole thread), where competition is a combination of discipline, gender and age group.



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From: Martin Alvarez Espinar <martin.alvarez.espinar@huawei.com<mailto:martin.alvarez.espinar@huawei.com>>
Date: 04/03/2021 17:33 (GMT+01:00)
To: Duje Bonacci <duje@trackmeetings.info<mailto:duje@trackmeetings.info>>, public-opentrack@w3.org<mailto:public-opentrack@w3.org>
Subject: RE: Common database for type of events (with ids)

Hi Duje,

Thank you.

Do you mean the classification OW, GL, DL, A, B, C, D..., right? [1]

In this case, I think this classification would apply to the type of the event as the competition as a whole:
For instance: European Athletics Indoor Championships 2021 in Torun
- is an 'A' event
- that has several sub-events (sub-competitions: 60, 60H, 3000, etc. <- here we use the list of disciplines)

Happy to create this new taxonomy based on the existing official data. We can follow the same approach, so everyone could contribute in the future.

Best,

Martin

[1] https://www.worldathletics.org/world-ranking-rules/basics



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From: Duje Bonacci [mailto:duje@trackmeetings.info]
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:50 PM
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Subject: Re: Common database for type of events (with ids)

Hi all!

Martin, thanx for the initiative, I would be happy to join in on this!

Also, having in mind that two years ago WA introduced competition rank categories, and I found that there it should be extended somewhat with
3-4 additional items so that all events can be functionally classified, would id be possible to open a document for that as well?

duje

04. 03. 2021. u 13:41, Martin Alvarez Espinar je napisao/la:
> Hi,
>
> During the last meeting we discussed about the possibility of having a common list of disciplines. This is one of the outcomes we can propose to the rest of the world.
>
> In 2018, we did the exercise of analyzing a high level both a taxonomy and a model to define those disciplines [1]. This model should serve to describe *any* kind of athletics event, including those that are not depending on an official governing body.
>
> As you can observe, there are several common attributes:
>   - type of event (e.g., Race)
>   - subtype of event (e.g., Hurdles)
>   - venue type (e.g., indoor, outdoor, road,...)
>   - + specific attributes (e.g., height of hurdles)
>
> Apart from the model, we should create a list with the common types of events (with common identifiers), at least with the official ones. Time ago, I created a first list with the main event recognized by the IAAF rules book. See this early proposal at [2]. If you like the idea, we can collectively maintain this database within the GitHub repository. So everyone could propose changes. This could also serve to keep an update map of different identifiers from different systems. Also, we will be able to generate the complementary machine-readable representation of that information.
>
> Suggestions are welcome. If you like this idea, I'll push the document into the main repository and change the styles.
>
> Best,
>
> Martin
>
> [1]
> https://w3c.github.io/opentrack-cg/spec/competition/#sports-discipline

> [2] https://espinr.github.io/opentrack-cg/spec/disciplines/

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