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Re: New version of Popolo spec for legislative data published

From: Mike Shultz <mike@votesmart.org>
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:10:09 -0600
Message-ID: <CAC_n8p4TvY+nYme9NiXpZ4UaQ_JRB4tC8wrcjhknAF3vqrSn+A@mail.gmail.com>
To: James McKinney <james@opennorth.ca>
Cc: public-opengov@w3.org
I'm curious to know how far you intend to take this spec.  It seems good
for the general-level information on people and organizations, and we could
use the vast majority of it right now.  If we were to implement today, we
would have to extend it greatly for all of our various other data.
 However, in your description, you note that this spec is "focusing on the
legislative branch of government," but you don't have anything for
representing pieces of legislation or individual votes yet.  Do you intend
to expand into this area?

Do you intend to expand into elections, or would that be the case of
something that would need to be extended by the implementation?

I only have a couple comments on the published spec itself.  'email' of the
'person' object should probably be moved into 'contact_details'.  There are
many cases where you don't see a single unique E-mail for all individuals.

And it's pretty much personal preference, but I'd like to see the 'id'
field expanded into it's full name.  So 'id' of the 'person' object would
instead be 'person_id'.  But that's really just personal preference and I
think might be a little clearer to end users.

Good stuff, so far.


On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 2:37 PM, James McKinney <james@opennorth.ca> wrote:

> Forgot link to GitHub tracker:
> https://github.com/opennorth/popolo-spec/issues
>
> On 2013-07-12, at 4:28 PM, James McKinney wrote:
>
> Back in March I announced Popolo, a project to develop open government
> data specifications, focusing on the legislative branch of government,
> while remaining useful to a broad set of use cases:
> http://popoloproject.com/ Since then, it's been used by mySociety in
> PopIt [1], by the Sunlight Foundation in its municipal data projects [2],
> and it's making its way into other projects by the Open Knowledge
> Foundation and others.
>
> Today, I am happy to announce a new version that incorporates the great
> feedback that I received from members of this list and others. Highlights:
>
> - re-worked memberships to make it easier to describe simple, complex and
> historical relationships between people and organizations
> - re-worked the contact information model to be more flexible and to
> support a wider variety of use cases
> - described more ways to serialize data as JSON, in particular how to
> embed, for example, memberships on a person object
> - added metadata fields to all classes (timestamps and attribution)
>
> In addition to improving the core spec, improvements have been made to the
> website and related docs:
>
> - significantly re-organized content to make it easier to find what's
> relevant to you
> - added appendices that include a collection of best practices and
> patterns discovered through the development process
>
> At this point, I would love to get more feedback and participation in the
> following questions:
>
> 1. Is the spec useful to you? For the classes it covers (people,
> organizations, memberships, contact info), is anything missing? Can you
> identify any barriers to adoption, or anything you would change?
> 2. Is it easy for you to find answers to questions you have about the
> spec? Is the language clear and easy to understand? Is the content
> presented in an order than makes sense?
> 3. What next class can be added to the spec to make it more interesting to
> adopt? Suggestions that have come up previously are: areas (like electoral
> districts), events, documents and votes.
>
> The current next steps for the project are more or less reflected in the
> GitHub issue tracker and are based on past comments and feedback, so there
> is definitely an opportunity for you to help determine the project's
> priorities.
>
> I'd especially like to thank: James Turk, Paul Tagliamonte, Thom Neale,
> Eric Mill, Tom Lee (Sunlight Foundation); Matthew Sommerville, Edmund von
> der Burg, Mark Longair, Tom Steinberg (mySociety); David Moore
> (Participatory Politics); Robert Cheetham (Azavea); Rufus Pollock (Open
> Knowledge Foundation); and Phil Ashlock for their feedback, support,
> promotion, and/or implementation of the specification.
>
> My hope is that, by increasing Popolo's adoption, different groups will
> not only publish data that is interoperable, but will more easily develop
> interoperable software components, making it easier for groups with fewer
> resources to launch websites like http://www.theyworkforyou.com/ or
> http://www.opencongress.org/.
>
> Link: http://popoloproject.com/
>
> Thanks!
>
> James
>
> [1] https://github.com/mysociety/popit-api
> [2] https://github.com/opencivicdata
>
>
>


-- 
Mike Shultz
Web Developer
Project Vote Smart
Received on Tuesday, 16 July 2013 15:10:37 UTC

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