- From: Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>
- Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 20:36:52 +0200
- To: <public-openannotation@w3.org>
Hi, I'm not from PROV, but have two brief comments: 1. WGS84 is good for expressing co-ordinates for a location resource 2. What are the use case for geo-locating annotations and linking the annotation to a location resource? Are they so common, and specific, that you would have to handle them by introducing a new property in OA? I'd be tempted to just rely on any general solution for recording any user-generated events... Best, Antoine > > The use of prov:atLocation, associated with the annotating activity seems like a good approach to me at the PROV level. To follow the mapping into the OA predicates, I think your suggested annotatedAtLocation is the right term with a clear translation into the full PROV model. > > Any PROV folks like to comment? Stian? Antoine? > > Rob > > > > > On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Paolo Ciccarese <paolo.ciccarese@gmail.com <mailto:paolo.ciccarese@gmail.com>> wrote: > > In second analysis, I believe that seems ok if we associate prov:atLocation to the Activity of 'annotating'? > > > On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Paolo Ciccarese <paolo.ciccarese@gmail.com <mailto:paolo.ciccarese@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hi Rob, > that is a good point. > > As I would like to record the location of the 'annotation creation', it would probably be better to have something like oa:annotatedAtLocation then? > That would be more consistent with the OA model. Unfortunately it seems less in line with how others do it :/ > > I see in PROV the property: **http://www.w3.org/ns/prov#atLocation > but I am still not sure the definition ("The Location of any resource.") is compatible with what I am trying to do. > > Maybe we can ask to the PROV folks? > > Paolo > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Robert Sanderson <azaroth42@gmail.com <mailto:azaroth42@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > Hi Paolo, > > While I'm happy with using the geo ontology, I'm not sure that geo:location is the right predicate to use with the Annotation, given the collapsing of the annotation document/concept. Is it the annotating or serializing activity, in PROV terms, which the location is referring to? > > The ontology defines geo:location as: > "The relation between something and the point, or other geometrical thing in space, where it is." > > I'm not sure that the location of the annotator at the time they created the annotation concept is "where it [the annotation] is." That seems more like the location of the storage system (annotation as document) or just not a point in space (annotation as a concept). > > Could you explain how you would see the mapping into the PROV model? > > Thanks! > > Rob > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Paolo Ciccarese <paolo.ciccarese@gmail.com <mailto:paolo.ciccarese@gmail.com>> wrote: > > I was looking into recording the geolocation at the annotation level (where the annotation has been generated, not the body). > > Is the vocabulary: > http://www.w3.org/2003/01/geo/wgs84_pos# > the best option? > > How do we recommend to link it to the annotation? > > I was looking at this: http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/wiki/GoodRelations_and_Geo_/_Location_Data > > Are we good with this? > geo:location [ geo:lat "48.0802626"; geo:long "11.6407428". ]. > > vCard seems another options as explained in that page. > > Best, > Paolo > > > -- > Dr. Paolo Ciccarese > http://www.paolociccarese.info/ > Biomedical Informatics Research & Development > Instructor of Neurology at Harvard Medical School > Assistant in Neuroscience at Mass General Hospital > Member of the MGH Biomedical Informatics Core > +1-857-366-1524 (mobile) +1-617-768-8744 (office) > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message is intended only for the addressee(s), may contain information that is considered > to be sensitive or confidential and may not be forwarded or disclosed to any other party without the permission of the sender. > If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately. > > > > > > -- > Dr. Paolo Ciccarese > http://www.paolociccarese.info/ > Biomedical Informatics Research & Development > Instructor of Neurology at Harvard Medical School > Assistant in Neuroscience at Mass General Hospital > Member of the MGH Biomedical Informatics Core > +1-857-366-1524 (mobile) +1-617-768-8744 (office) > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message is intended only for the addressee(s), may contain information that is considered > to be sensitive or confidential and may not be forwarded or disclosed to any other party without the permission of the sender. > If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately. > > > > > -- > Dr. Paolo Ciccarese > http://www.paolociccarese.info/ > Biomedical Informatics Research & Development > Instructor of Neurology at Harvard Medical School > Assistant in Neuroscience at Mass General Hospital > Member of the MGH Biomedical Informatics Core > +1-857-366-1524 (mobile) +1-617-768-8744 (office) > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message is intended only for the addressee(s), may contain information that is considered > to be sensitive or confidential and may not be forwarded or disclosed to any other party without the permission of the sender. > If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately. > >
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