Re: whine about dctypes:Software

I don't mind that for general consistency.

Paolo

On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Robert Sanderson <azaroth42@gmail.com>wrote:

> We could use those three classes?  So prov:Person, prov:Organization,
> prov;softwareAgent plus the other properties from foaf ?
> That seems more consistent than the current situation.
>
> Opinions?
>
> Rob
>
> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Stian Soiland-Reyes
> <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
> > PROV defines prov:SoftwareAgent [1] which might be appropriate. There
> > are also prov:Organization and prov;Person.
> >
> > In the PROV-Dublin Core Terms mapping we make dct:Agent
> > owl:equivalentClass prov:Agent. I think it should also be equivalent
> > to at foaf:Agent, but we've not formally stated that anywhere.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/prov-o/#SoftwareAgent
> > [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/prov-dc/
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Robert Sanderson <azaroth42@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Bob, Paolo,
> >>
> >> Yes, we had the exact same discussion last week :) The conclusion was
> that
> >> the inference of Agent-ness can be drawn based on the range of
> >> oa:annotatedBy / oa:serializedBy, or the domain of the various foaf
> >> properties.  So requiring the assertion to be explicit was unnecessary.
> >>
> >> The options seem to be:
> >> * Status quo, but make it explicit in the description of the Provenance
> >> Agents section
> >> * Create our own SoftwareAgent subClass of foaf:Agent
> >> * Convince Dan to add one to foaf
> >>
> >> Dan?
> >>
> >> Rob
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Paolo Ciccarese <
> paolo.ciccarese@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Bob,
> >>> we have been discussing that issues when we picked that type
> >>> and we felt a little uncomfortable as well.
> >>>
> >>> In the past, personally, I've been extending FOAF with some classes and
> >>> properties.
> >>> That is the other option I see. It would be our class though.
> >>>
> >>> Paolo
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 1:10 AM, Bob Morris <morris.bob@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I guess this issue is in the current core also.
> >>>>
> >>>> In http://www.openannotation.org/spec/future/core.html#ProvAgents it
> >>>> is proposed that dctypes:Software be used to type a software agent.
> >>>> One problem is that dctypesSoftware is not a subtype of foaf:Agent,
> >>>> thereby requiring(?) that a foaf:Agent type also be asserted on any
> >>>> Agent of type dctype:Software.
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't find this inherently improper, but I'm uncomfortable about an
> >>>> asymmetry between the Person and Software cases. I don't have a better
> >>>> idea though, and wonder why the FOAF community hasn't offered such a
> >>>> subclass.
> >>>>
> >>>> We also would often need to have Software as the object of
> >>>> oa:annotatedBy.  In addition to humans, we have Kepler workflows
> >>>> producing annotations autonomously.
> >>>>
> >>>> Bob Morris
> >>>>
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