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Re: New Draft comments: textual bodies

From: Paolo Ciccarese <paolo.ciccarese@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:43:31 -0500
Message-ID: <CAFPX2kDGCOMd2ME-zzSHbNk0xUUZhVChTmxQmzk=dEU=F18xzw@mail.gmail.com>
To: RaphaŽl Troncy <raphael.troncy@eurecom.fr>
Cc: Robert Sanderson <azaroth42@gmail.com>, Bernhard Haslhofer <bernhard.haslhofer@cornell.edu>, Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>, public-openannotation@w3.org
Dear RaphaŽl,
thank you for sharing your experience/thoughts about  the current status of
the model.

As Rob pointed out, there are many reasons that brought us to include that
blank node (or similar) in the current specs.
This has been an semi-open discussion point for quite a while.

We are now trying to better understand what are the repercussions of that
change in respect to the current status of the rest of the model
(multiplicity, semantic tagging, JSON-LD and so on).
Ideally simple annotations should be simple to create.... and complex
annotation should be possible without providing parallel solutions (or
duplicates) in the model.

As this is the first time you intervene on the mailing list, could you
provide a little more context?
I would like to understand better the nature of what you are doing.

Do you use - or plan to use - multiple types of annotations in your system?
If yes, how do you classify them?
Do you support multiple bodies?
Do you need to annotate annotations?
Are you already - or planning to - sharing the annotations?

Anything you can share would help.

Thank you for chiming in,

On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 11:04 AM, RaphaŽl Troncy

> But the difference between
>> {"@type" : "oa:Annotation",
>>   "body" : "I like this.",
>>   "target" : {"@id" : "http://flickr.com/images/1"}
>> }
>> and
>> {"@type" : "oa:Annotation",
>>   "body" : {"chars" : "I like this."},
>>   "target" : {"@id" : "http://flickr.com/images/1"}
>> is hardly a burden to support.
> It *IS* ! In LinkedTV, we are producing million of annotations of this
> sort (I'm not kidding), because of keyword spotting on ASR on many many
> shows at the shot level.
> What is the cost of not allowing:
> "@type" : "oa:Annotation",
>    "body" : "I like this.",
>    "target" : {"@id" : "http://flickr.com/images/1"}
> } ?
> Honestly, this is what our tools is already generating anyway.
>   RaphaŽl
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Dr. Paolo Ciccarese
Biomedical Informatics Research & Development
Instructor of Neurology at Harvard Medical School
Assistant in Neuroscience at Mass General Hospital
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