Re: New Draft comments: Motivations in SKOS

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 3:44 AM, Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl> wrote:

> Hi Rob,
>
> This looks good!
> The only issues are a small typo (AnotherSchemne->**AnotherScheme), the
> fact that I would have lower-cased the instance ids (with my RDF eyes, my
> first reaction would be to read oa:MotivationSheme as a subclass of
> skos:ConceptScheme, not an instance of it ;-) ).
>
> Also, I think all the broadMatch can be replaced by broader: the semantic
> relations are embedded in the design of the concerned concepts, they are
> not post-ante reconciliation of concepts that were created in isolation.
>

Agree, that is a mapping property that we could use at one point to align
different 'motivation-extensions' if any.


>
> On comment 1: I agree for keeping oa:Motivation makes much sense. But part
> of my point was to get rid of the general oa:annotating concept. Asserting
> that a concept is narrower than oa:annotation doesn't had much information
> to asserting that this concept is a member of oa:motivationScheme, I think.
>

I think as the oa:Motivation comes from our namespace it can be interpreted
as 'motivation for annotating'. So I am in favor of removing oa:annotation
that we probably won't use directly either.

Paolo


>
> Cheers,
>
> Antoine
>
>
>
>
>> Hi Antoine, and all,
>>
>> Could you verify that the below RDF is what is intended by your
>> suggestions?
>>
>> -------------------------
>> oa:MotivationScheme a skos:ConceptScheme ;
>> skos:hasTopConcept oa:annotating.
>>
>> oa:Motivation rdfs:subClassOf skos:Concept .
>>
>> oa:annotating a oa:Motivation ;
>> skos:prefLabel "Annotating"@en .
>>
>> oa:editing a oa:Motivation ;
>> skos:inScheme oa:MotivationScheme ;
>> skos:broadMatch oa:annotating ;
>> skos:prefLabel "Editing"@en .
>>
>> new:correcting a oa:Motivation ;
>> skos:inScheme new:AScheme ;
>> skos:broadMatch oa:editing ;
>> skos:prefLabel "Correcting a Mistake"@en .
>>
>> new2:fixing a oa:Motivation ;
>> skos:inScheme new2:AnotherSchemne ;
>> skos:broadMatch oa:editing ;
>> skos:closeMatch new:correcting ;
>> skos:prefLabel "Fixing a Mistake"@en .
>> ---------------------
>>
>> And to your comments...
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 8:59 AM, Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl <mailto:
>> aisaac@few.vu.nl>> wrote:
>>
>>     1. Is oa:Annotating really needed? It should be enough that
>> motivations are in oa:MotivationScheme (or are defined to be a sub-concept
>> of a concept that is in oa:MotivationScheme) to infer that these are kind
>> of annotation purposes.
>>
>>
>> The thought was that it would be easier to assert that the range of
>> oa:motivatedBy is a oa:Motivation, rather than any skos:Concept. Also, as
>> below, they may not be in any Concept Scheme. Unless there's a reason not
>> to, I think this would be good to keep.
>>
>>     2. Using skos:topConceptOf is valid, but this property was coined for
>> technical reasons. It would be better to keep to the property in the other
>> direction, skos:hasTopConcept.
>>
>>
>> Fixed in to-be-published revised draft.
>>
>>
>>     3. I am not sure that putting all new motivation concepts
>> (new:Correcting and new2:Fixing) in the reference oa:MotivationScheme. If
>> several applications create their own, potentially overlapping motivation
>> concepts, then oa:MotivationSheme risks becoming difficult to use. For
>> extensions, knowing that a concept defined to be a sub-concept of a
>> "reference" concept that is in oa:MotivationScheme (possibly indirectly,
>> via skos:broaderTransitive) should meet most requirements I can think of
>>
>>
>> Agreed, fixed this.
>>
>>     4. It is good practice to use language tags with SKOS labels. This
>> should appear in the machine-readable file, but also be reflected in the
>> example.
>>
>>
>> Fixed.
>>
>>     With all these suggestions, Figure B could be reworked to look more
>> like the attached diagram (not trying to enforce any graphic convention
>> here! It's just that I don't have time to refine it...)
>>
>>
>> This, too, will be fixed and published very shortly :)
>>
>> Rob
>>
>
>
>


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