- From: Stian Soiland-Reyes <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk>
- Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:56:16 +0000
- To: Robert Sanderson <azaroth42@gmail.com>
- Cc: public-openannotation <public-openannotation@w3.org>
It works! I used http://rdf-translator.appspot.com/ to parse http://www.w3.org/ns/oa.rdf and then I pasted in our @context from the HTML spec and made: https://raw.github.com/stain/oa/master/oa.json which seems to work. I've not been able to test it properly with that URL as @context as http://json-ld.org/playground/ don't seem to resolve anything from the INTERNETS. but if I paste the whole thing into the sandbox I get lots of OWL nquads out, which compares equal to the triples of current TTL ignoring for namespace prefixes. The only error is that it says "rdfs:isDefinedBy": { "@id": "oa" }, which resolves to http://json-ld.org/playground/oa - so I did a manual search-replace for those. The site could also do RDFa which I just pasted into the oa.html - thus Ivan should now be happy. I had to do some manual search-replace of " to " here and there - the conversion tool is not perfect. Obviously this is not a very reproduceable setup, but we can try to script something. (There's a REST interface to the converter) --- and we should also give some PROVenance of how this was made! ;-) On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Stian Soiland-Reyes <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk> wrote: > That sounds like a good workaround! OWL ontologies in JSON-LD is a bit > unusual; but I guess it would work. > > I'll have a look if we can do some kind of conversion (given an > OWL/RDFS context); then we can just semi-concatenate in the @context. > Maintaining the ontology in JSON-LD as the raw format might or might > not work well. > > One issue is that JSON clients might not be good at content > negotiations; so the official @context should probably include the > .json extension (or equivalent) - I guess this is OK - just like we > have http://www.w3.org/ns/oa.ttl and http://www.w3.org/ns/oa.rdf > already. > > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Robert Sanderson <azaroth42@gmail.com> wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> A slight hiccup... the location that we specified in the most recent >> version of the spec for the default JSON-LD context document isn't >> actually available to use. The W3C uses the /ns/ directory >> exclusively for namespace documents, and the context document doesn't >> count. W3C doesn't have a /contexts/ yet (and may never have one), we >> don't have a /TR/ space as a community group, so we'd be back to >> putting it in openannotation.org. This is undesirable for when we >> move further into the standards process, of course. >> >> We could have a PURL redirect and swap it from one to the other, but >> then we would lose the versioning information and just adds an >> additional hop for processors to follow. >> >> We're discussing the issue on the JSON-LD list, please feel free to >> join in if it's of interest to you, but one interesting proposal is as >> below. >> The original thread is here: >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-linked-json/2013Feb/0152.html >> >> ----- >>> As the W3C (thank you Ivan) lets us >>> publish our namespace documents, we figured that they'd also let us >>> publish the JSON-LD context file, but they don't have anything in >>> place for doing that yet. >> >> I didn't know that. If that's the case, why don't combine your namespace >> document with your external context? The external context would end up being >> slightly bigger, but that shouldn't really matter. That even has the >> advantage that your namespace document is available as JSON-LD and there >> won't be an additional round-trip to fetch its definitions. >> >> So, what I mean is this. You upload a JSON-LD document describing your >> vocabulary. In that document you also include an @context element at the >> top-level JSON object. You can even use that local context when describing >> your vocab. >> >> { >> "@context": { >> ... >> }, >> ... your vocabulary ... >> } >> >> When retrieving an external context, a JSON-LD will ignore everything but >> the context. Et voila, everything works as expected. You have your context >> at a stable location and even reduced the number of necessary roundtrips if >> you need, e.g., the labels for some properties. >> ----- >> >> >> This seems extremely attractive to me, at least. We wouldn't have to >> maintain two separate files (ontology in JSON-LD and context would be >> the same document) and processors would still do the right thing. >> >> Rob >> > > > > -- > Stian Soiland-Reyes, myGrid team > School of Computer Science > The University of Manchester -- Stian Soiland-Reyes, myGrid team School of Computer Science The University of Manchester
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