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Re: Last Ultimate Final Call :)

From: Paolo Ciccarese <paolo.ciccarese@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 09:20:08 -0500
Message-ID: <CAFPX2kCHt0xEtroHrN_pF19uuUivphyB6Vd6kBf9D5aXSbqh-g@mail.gmail.com>
To: Leyla Jael García Castro <leylajael@gmail.com>
Cc: public-openannotation <public-openannotation@w3.org>, Stian Soiland-Reyes <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk>, Robert Sanderson <azaroth42@gmail.com>
Hi Leyla,
we have been discussed about that issue and we tried to explain it in the
Introduction:
http://www.openannotation.org/spec/future/#Introduction

"An annotation is considered to be a set of connected resources, typically
including a body and target, and conveys that the body is related to the
target. The exact nature of this relationship changes according to the
intention of the annotation, but most frequently conveys that the body is
somehow "about" the target. Other possible relationships include that the
body is an identifier for the target, provides a representation of the
target, or classifies the target in some way."

In other words, while in annotations such as comments you can say that the
body is somehow about the target, with a semantic tag I would say we
'classify' the target.

Does this help?

Paolo

On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Leyla Jael García Castro <
leylajael@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> My doubt has probably been already solved in some thread but did not find
> it.
> I just saw the semantic tag example at
> http://www.w3.org/community/openannotation/wiki/SE_Semantically_Tagging_an_Image
>
> What would be the relation between the tagged image and the dbpedia entity
> used as semantic tag? In some how I have the subject (it would be the
> target of the annotation) and the object (it would be the body of the
> annotation), but what would be the predicate?
>
> Understanding that could maybe help me to better follow the discussion
> about the semantic tags.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Leyla
> On Feb 1, 2013 6:39 PM, "Paolo Ciccarese" <paolo.ciccarese@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> No doubt that is elegant solution with respect of the rest of the model.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Robert Sanderson <azaroth42@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Paolo Ciccarese
>>> <paolo.ciccarese@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Robert Sanderson <azaroth42@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> >> > So how about recommending to do #tag on the URI of the page?
>>> >> > Like: http://omim.org/entry/104760#tag
>>> >> > Again, not ideal but it could help. No?
>>> >>
>>> >> This is what we recommend already, using a different URI  and linking
>>> >> it to the document :)
>>> >
>>> > Wait, that is exactly my point. Not 'a different URI' in general, that
>>> would
>>> > create a mess I believe.
>>> > How do we feel in pushing for a specific way of using "the different
>>> URI"
>>> > #something?
>>>
>>> I don't like it, especially with the clarification in RDF 1.1 that
>>> fragments identify the element within the hosting format, not a
>>> semantic resource.
>>>
>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf11-concepts/#section-fragID
>>>
>>> So if there was a "tag" in the underlying document, then it would
>>> refer to that, not the use of the URI as a semantic tag.  It still has
>>> the same collision problems.
>>>
>>> The clean way, IMO, is:
>>>
>>> <anno1> a oa:Annotation ;
>>>   oa:hasBody <tagSpRes1> ;
>>>   oa:hasTarget <target1> .
>>>
>>> <tagSpRes1> a oa:SpecificResource , oa:[Semantic]Tag ;
>>>   oa:hasSource <http://omim.org/entry/104760> ;
>>>
>>> Which is just a clarification of what we already say in the doc, that
>>> you mint a new URI and link it to the original URI.
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> http://www.paolociccarese.info/
>> Biomedical Informatics Research & Development
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Dr. Paolo Ciccarese
http://www.paolociccarese.info/
Biomedical Informatics Research & Development
Instructor of Neurology at Harvard Medical School
Assistant in Neuroscience at Mass General Hospital
Member of the MGH Biomedical Informatics Core
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