Re: [W3C] Terminology module: next telco (July)

Hi Fahad, All,

Well, especially in the field of Terminology, we should have a sloppy 
use of terms :-) But just jocking. Still, the confusion is made my many 
people (including myself in the past).

Just as infomration: in the past, a TBX2RDF transformer was implemented 
(https://www.w3.org/community/bpmlod/wiki/Converting_TBX_to_RDF), making 
also use of a former version of Ontolex (SKOS was not integrated at that 
time). One option would to adapt the transfomer to the final 
specifications of Ontolex-Lemon.

Cheers

Thierry



Am 19.06.2023 um 21:28 schrieb Fahad Khan:
> Dear Thierry,
> Thanks for the clarification. You are right that "serialisation" is a 
> sloppy use of language here which I'm effectively using as a shorthand 
> for something more like a crosswalk (the serialisation would 
> technically be to RDF/XML or turtle, etc,), if you like we can go with 
> representation from now on. Regarding your second point, I feel that 
> the Terminology module should offer the possibility of as faithful a 
> conversion or representation of TBX data into RDF as possible, and 
> even that this should be one of the main selling points of the module.
> Cheers
> Fahad
>
> Il giorno lun 19 giu 2023 alle ore 21:02 Thierry Declerck 
> <declerck@dfki.de> ha scritto:
>
>     Hi Fahad, All,
>
>     Thanks for the mail! From me just a "terminological" comment. The
>     ISO work is on "representing" the core of TBX in RDF, but not
>     on"serializing" TBX in RDF (as RDF is a modeling language). I
>     think that we have to be careful here (and the ISO committee, the
>     link you are pointing to) is using the right term (Representation).
>
>     Besides this, I think that an Ontolex-driven representation of
>     terminology data should go beyond the "mere" reproduction of TBX
>     and should make full use of RDF-based modeling. Some of the points
>     Patricia mentioned in the document refered to by Jorge are related
>     to this point.
>
>     Well just some thoughts.
>
>     Cheers
>
>     Thierry
>
>     Am 19.06.2023 um 19:29 schrieb Fahad Khan:
>>     Dear All,
>>     As I mentioned in the W3C Day preparation meeting today, I was in
>>     Brussels last week for the annual ISO/TC 37 meeting where I
>>     became aware of work being carried out within the aegis of the
>>     terminological committee ISO/TC 37/SC 3 withthe aim of defining a
>>     serialisation of TBX into RDF.
>>     <https://www.iso.org/standard/84361.html> Subsequently I got into
>>     contact with Hanne Smaadahl, the chairperson of the committee,
>>     who was extremely enthusiastic about the prospect of the two
>>     groups coordinating their respective efforts in a case where
>>     there was a very strong chance of overlap ( as I recall one
>>     important use case for the new OntoLex module is the conversion
>>     of TBX datasets into RDF). I think it would be worth discussing
>>     this at the next terminology focused telco to try and understand
>>     what such collaboration might look like, especially given the
>>     closed nature of ISO standards, something which I guess is kind
>>     of anathema to our community (though I also think it makes no
>>     sense to have two rival RDF seralisations of TBX floating around).
>>     Cheers
>>     Fahad
>>
>>     Il giorno lun 19 giu 2023 alle ore 19:10 Jorge Gracia del Río
>>     <jogracia@unizar.es> ha scritto:
>>
>>         Dear W3C ontolex members,
>>
>>         As you know, we recently started a discussion on a potential
>>         Terminology module for Ontolex. Our previous telco took place
>>         on 10th May, and it's time to schedule a new one. Please,
>>         those interested in participating fill in this doodle poll
>>         with some options in the first two weeks of July by the end
>>         of this week: https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/dwr0RRzb
>>
>>         As a reminder, the main decision from the last telco was to
>>         start documenting the issues that arise when working with
>>         lemon-ontolex to model terminologies. Patricia enlisted some
>>         of them here:
>>         https://www.w3.org/community/ontolex/wiki/Terminology#Open_Issues,
>>         they will be filled with more details before the next
>>         meeting. Also, any other member with experience in modelling
>>         terminologies in lemon, feel free to document your own issues
>>         using the same template.
>>
>>         Best regards,
>>
>>         Jorge
>>
>>         -- 
>>         Jorge Gracia, PhD
>>         Department of Computer Science and Systems Engineering /
>>         Aragon Institute of Engineering Research (I3A)
>>         University of Zaragoza
>>         http://jogracia.url.ph/web/
>>
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