- From: Mo McRoberts <Mo.McRoberts@bbc.co.uk>
- Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 12:21:05 +0000
- To: "Myles, Stuart" <SMyles@ap.org>
- CC: Renato Iannella <ri@semanticidentity.com>, "public-odrl@w3.org Group" <public-odrl@w3.org>
On 2013-Jul-22, at 13:07, "Myles, Stuart" <SMyles@ap.org> wrote: >> Okay, I've done the necessary initial steps: > > Sadly, when I clicked on those links, I just got "LODE error. Reason: ptah.bencrannich.net". However, the overall approach makes sense to me. Odd -- it works okay for me, unless the links got wrapped or broken by mail... try them on here instead? http://www.w3.org/community/odrl/wiki/SemanticWeb > >>> And....to be clear, it means we have to update the XML Encoding spec to use the new namepace URIs. > > That's a good point. Do we need to do something formal, since the XML Encoding has already been agreed, right? > >> This shouldn't make the JSON-LD especially complex, it just means that the actions/functions/constraints/policies/scopes will always be prefixed with a namespace when used within an ODRL JSON document (because the default namespace would be the model). > > The idea of using parts of JSON-LD for the ODRL in JSON representation has been floated. I'm not so certain that we've committed to that. I'm certainly in favour of using aspects of JSON-LD to the extent that it makes things easier to implement (but obviously opposed to the extent that it is a barrier to implementation). I think it would be helpful to look at some examples, to make it easier to understand the consequences. I'd agree — though I should note that if ODRL-as-RDF is in any way successful, the JSON-LD encoding will probably come into existence as a matter of course :) (That's not much of an argument weighing anything in either direction, though, really) General alignment even if ODRL-JSON isn't formally derived from JSON-LD would probably be a good thing, though. M. > > Regards, > > Stuart > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mo McRoberts [mailto:Mo.McRoberts@bbc.co.uk] > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 6:19 AM > To: Mo McRoberts > Cc: Renato Iannella; public-odrl@w3.org Group > Subject: Re: Namespace of ODRL > > And for those who prefer human-readable documents... > > http://www.essepuntato.it/lode/owlapi/http://ptah.bencrannich.net/2013/UNSTABLE/model > http://www.essepuntato.it/lode/owlapi/http://ptah.bencrannich.net/2013/UNSTABLE/actions > http://www.essepuntato.it/lode/owlapi/http://ptah.bencrannich.net/2013/UNSTABLE/constraints > http://www.essepuntato.it/lode/owlapi/http://ptah.bencrannich.net/2013/UNSTABLE/functions > http://www.essepuntato.it/lode/owlapi/http://ptah.bencrannich.net/2013/UNSTABLE/policies > http://www.essepuntato.it/lode/owlapi/http://ptah.bencrannich.net/2013/UNSTABLE/scopes > > M. > > On 2013-Jul-22, at 10:18, Mo McRoberts <Mo.McRoberts@bbc.co.uk> wrote: > >> Okay, I've done the necessary initial steps: >> >> http://ptah.bencrannich.net/2013/UNSTABLE/model.ttl >> >> http://ptah.bencrannich.net/2013/UNSTABLE/actions.ttl >> >> http://ptah.bencrannich.net/2013/UNSTABLE/functions.ttl >> >> http://ptah.bencrannich.net/2013/UNSTABLE/constraints.ttl >> >> http://ptah.bencrannich.net/2013/UNSTABLE/policies.ttl >> >> http://ptah.bencrannich.net/2013/UNSTABLE/scopes.ttl >> >> This shouldn't make the JSON-LD especially complex, it just means that the actions/functions/constraints/policies/scopes will always be prefixed with a namespace when used within an ODRL JSON document (because the default namespace would be the model). >> >> M. >> >> On 2013-Jul-22, at 07:09, Renato Iannella <ri@semanticidentity.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> On 19 Jul 2013, at 18:37, Mo McRoberts <mo.mcroberts@bbc.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>>> Okay, it seems like we're close to (if not have) consensus on this one - does anybody have any objections before I make the changes? >>> >>> No objections....just want to see if this namespace change is OK for >>> the ODRL JSON spec? (Jonas?) >>> >>> And....to be clear, it means we have to update the XML Encoding spec to use the new namepace URIs. >>> >>> (I am ok to use SKOS as well...) >>> >>> Cheers... >>> Renato Iannella >>> Semantic Identity >>> http://semanticidentity.com >>> Mobile: +61 4 1313 2206 >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Mo McRoberts - Technical Lead - The Space >> 0141 422 6036 (Internal: 01-26036) - PGP key CEBCF03E, Zone 1.08, BBC >> Scotland, Pacific Quay, Glasgow, G51 1DA Project Office: MC3 D4/5, >> Media Centre, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TQ, >> >> >> -- >> Mo McRoberts - Analyst - BBC Archive Development, Zone 1.08, BBC >> Scotland, 40 Pacific Quay, Glasgow G51 1DA, >> MC3 D6, Media Centre, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TQ, >> 0141 422 6036 (Internal: 01-26036) - PGP key CEBCF03E >> > > -- > Mo McRoberts - Technical Lead - The Space > 0141 422 6036 (Internal: 01-26036) - PGP key CEBCF03E, Zone 1.08, BBC Scotland, Pacific Quay, Glasgow, G51 1DA Project Office: MC3 D4/5, Media Centre, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TQ, > > > -- > Mo McRoberts - Analyst - BBC Archive Development, Zone 1.08, BBC Scotland, 40 Pacific Quay, Glasgow G51 1DA, > MC3 D6, Media Centre, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TQ, > 0141 422 6036 (Internal: 01-26036) - PGP key CEBCF03E > > > > ----------------------------- > http://www.bbc.co.uk > This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. > If you have received it in > error, please delete it from your system. > Do not use, copy or disclose the > information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. > Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. > Further communication will signify your consent to this. > ----------------------------- > > > > The information contained in this communication is intended for the use > of the designated recipients named above. 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