Re: CSS aims

Johnathan,

Maybe share some pseudo code?



On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Jonathan Kelly
<jonathank.kelly@gmail.com>wrote:

> ( Long time observer first time responder :-) )
>
> A hypothetical answer would be to enforce a rule that 1.) requires you to
> have some area where the presentation is defined and 2.) "requiring" that
> the presentation scheme be included in the document it is being applied to.
> Much like include/imports in languages like C and Java. The browser could
> have a default empty presentation layer that could be overwritten by the
> "user".
>
> Does this make things complex on the user end? I don't think so, it steers
> them in the direction of separating concerns.
>
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> Jonathan K. Kelly
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>
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Alan Stearns <stearns@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>> On 1/14/14, 11:29 AM, "Brian Kardell" <bkardell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I've been thinking a lot lately because of some related threads on other
>> >lists:  Is it plausible to imagine a clean/reasonably complete decoupling
>> >of presentation from structure without adding dubious amounts of
>> >complexity?  I'm asking it here because i
>> > think it plays in some ways to think about the direction of the platform
>> >present and future to look at where to aim efforts at explanation and
>> >extensibility.
>> >I guess my question is:  intentionally pretty vague because I'm
>> >interested in hearing where you all think various answers and pieces
>> >being pondered fit together in this general aim.
>>
>> I have been thinking quite a lot on this topic. The way you’re posing the
>> question, I think the answer is no. There is no reasonably complete way to
>> decouple presentation from structure, because presentation often requires
>> structure. Items are grouped or wrapped for purely presentational
>> purposes. A layout has a structure that is separate from its content.
>>
>> I think your question is different than, “Is there a way to encode all
>> presentation in CSS?” I think that *might* be possible, but it would
>> require adding structure to CSS. I’ve looked in to doing just that, and my
>> opinion at the moment is that adding structure to CSS is (a) really
>> difficult and (b) hard to justify when HTML is really good at structure.
>>
>> So I’m inclined towards approaches that find ways of decoupling the
>> content structure from the presentational structure in HTML.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Alan
>>
>>
>


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