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From: Dominique Hazael-Massieux <dom@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:19:15 +0100
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http://www.w3.org/2009/11/10-mwts-minutes.html
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Dom


    Mobile Web Initiative Test Suites Working Group Teleconference

10 Nov 2009

   [2]Agenda

      [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Nov/0000.html

   See also: [3]IRC log

      [3] http://www.w3.org/2009/11/10-mwts-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Carmelo, dom, wilhelm, Kai, dmitri

   Chair
          Wilhelm

   Scribe
          dom

Contents

     * [4]Topics
         1. [5]Widgets testing
         2. [6]WCTMB2
         3. [7]OMA
         4. [8]Next meeting
     * [9]Summary of Action Items
     _________________________________________________________

Widgets testing

   <dom_scribe> [10]Widgets test suite

     [10] http://dev.w3.org//2006/waf/widgets/test-suite/

   <dom_scribe> [11]Blog post on SPARTAN

     [11] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/blog/2009/11/10/automated_testing_of_a_browser_engine

   ACTION-80?

   <trackbot> ACTION-80 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to provide a
   categorized view of the widgets test suite (roughly by section) --
   due 2009-12-01 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [12]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/80

     [12] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/80

   ACTION-84?

   <trackbot> ACTION-84 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to follow up with
   Marcos on packaging and releasing P&C test suite -- due 2009-12-01
   -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [13]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/84

     [13] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/84

   ACTION-82?

   <trackbot> ACTION-82 -- Kai Hendry to look into developing a first
   set of test cases for digsig based on
   [14]http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-digsig/tests/#automated-testi
   ng -- due 2009-11-15 -- OPEN

     [14] http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-digsig/tests/#automated-testing

   <trackbot> [15]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/82

     [15] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/82

   Kai: probably worth closing now; Marcos hasn't had time to look at
   DigSig testability

   close ACTION-82

   <trackbot> ACTION-82 Look into developing a first set of test cases
   for digsig based on
   [16]http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-digsig/tests/#automated-testi
   ng closed

     [16] http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-digsig/tests/#automated-testing

   ACTION-83?

   <trackbot> ACTION-83 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to look into
   automate testing from WebIDL -- due 2009-11-10 -- PENDINGREVIEW

   <trackbot> [17]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/83

     [17] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/83

   <dom_scribe> [18]Report from dom on WebIDL testing

     [18] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Oct/0019.html

   close ACTION-83

   <trackbot> ACTION-83 Look into automate testing from WebIDL closed

   Dom: think the tool is definitely useful; helped find some problems
   in Geolocation spec

WCTMB2

   ACTION-73?

   <trackbot> ACTION-73 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to create test cases
   for WCTMB2 -- due 2009-08-11 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [19]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/73

     [19] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/73

   Wilhelm: no progress on that yet

   <wilhelm> [20]http://people.opera.com/wilhelmja/wctmb2/

     [20] http://people.opera.com/wilhelmja/wctmb2/

   Wilhelm: looked at Web storage and Web workers, but don't have code
   yet
   ... I updated the test runner, but it's not complete yet

   ACTION-86?

   <trackbot> ACTION-86 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to finalize WCTMB2
   test runner -- due 2009-10-06 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [21]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/86

     [21] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/86

   scribe: I'm back up to speed, and intent to finish this this week

   ACTION-88?

   <trackbot> ACTION-88 -- Kai Hendry to come up with additional
   proposals for WCTMB2 -- due 2009-10-20 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [22]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/88

     [22] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/88

   <dom_scribe> [23]a few proposals from Kai

     [23] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Nov/0003.html

   Kai: localStorage clearly a priority
   ... could be simply integrated in WCTMB2

   <scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to move WCTMB2 to W3C server [recorded in
   [24]http://www.w3.org/2009/11/10-mwts-minutes.html#action01]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-91 - Move WCTMB2 to W3C server [on Wilhelm
   Joys Andersen - due 2009-11-17].

   ACTION-89?

   <trackbot> ACTION-89 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to look at audio
   test -- due 2009-11-10 -- PENDINGREVIEW

   <trackbot> [25]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/89

     [25] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/89

   <dom_scribe> [26]Dom's review of Audio test

     [26] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Nov/0001.html

   <dom_scribe> [27]Wilhelm's review of audio test

     [27] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Nov/0004.html

   close ACTION-89

   <trackbot> ACTION-89 Look at audio test closed

   close ACTION-90

   <trackbot> ACTION-90 Look at audio test closed

   Wilhelm: would prefer a completely automated test that we can do
   fully through scripting

   Kai: I'm OK with that

   <scribe> ACTION: Kai to rewrite audio test to make it entirely
   script-based [recorded in
   [28]http://www.w3.org/2009/11/10-mwts-minutes.html#action02]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-92 - Rewrite audio test to make it
   entirely script-based [on Kai Hendry - due 2009-11-17].

   Wilhelm: should we test video the same way?

   Kai: probably

   Wilhelm: I like the fact that you had several sources
   ... we should keep that
   ... esp given concerns on codecs

   Kai: video should be easily derivable from audio, will do

   <scribe> ACTION: Kai to generate a video test for WCTMB2 [recorded
   in [29]http://www.w3.org/2009/11/10-mwts-minutes.html#action03]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-93 - Generate a video test for WCTMB2 [on
   Kai Hendry - due 2009-11-17].

   Wilhelm: we're 6 weeks away from end of charter/holiday

   Dom: that's my concern indeed

   Wilhelm: if we can have an RC in a week or two, we can have it ready
   by then
   ... otherwise, would be fine continue working on this informally
   after charter

   Kai: I'm keen to continue working on this

   Dom: ok, let's continue then

   Wilhelm: any other tests we should add?

   [none expressed]

OMA

   ACTION-21?

   <trackbot> ACTION-21 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to send Opera's
   feedback on OMA test suites -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [30]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/21

     [30] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/21

   Wilhelm: propose to drop

   close ACTION-21

   <trackbot> ACTION-21 send Opera's feedback on OMA test suites closed

   ACTION-21: dropped due to lack of time

   <trackbot> ACTION-21 send Opera's feedback on OMA test suites notes
   added

   ACTION-77?

   <trackbot> ACTION-77 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to review new
   XHTML MP test suite from oma -- due 2009-12-01 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [31]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/77

     [31] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/77

Next meeting

   RESOLUTION: Next meeting on Nov 17

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: Kai to generate a video test for WCTMB2 [recorded in
   [32]http://www.w3.org/2009/11/10-mwts-minutes.html#action03]
   [NEW] ACTION: Kai to rewrite audio test to make it entirely
   script-based [recorded in
   [33]http://www.w3.org/2009/11/10-mwts-minutes.html#action02]
   [NEW] ACTION: Wilhelm to move WCTMB2 to W3C server [recorded in
   [34]http://www.w3.org/2009/11/10-mwts-minutes.html#action01]
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