- From: Dominique Hazael-Massieux <dom@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 17:25:59 +0200
- To: public-mwts <public-mwts@w3.org>
Hi,
The minutes of our call today are available at:
http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-mwts-minutes.html
linked from
http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/
and copied as text below.
Dom
Mobile Web Initiative Test Suites Working Group Teleconference
19 May 2009
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009May/0017.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-mwts-irc
Attendees
Present
Carmelo, Dom, wilhelm, Kai, dmitri
Regrets
Chair
Wilhelm
Scribe
dom
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Widgets testing
2. [6]Memory test
3. [7]Device Indenpendent Testing Guidelines
4. [8]Web Compatibility Test
5. [9]Blog
6. [10]OMA
7. [11]Next meeting
* [12]Summary of Action Items
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Widgets testing
<dom_scribe> [13]Widgets tests
[13] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2006/waf/widgets/tests/
ACTION-47?
<trackbot> ACTION-47 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to follow-up on
publishing details about SPARTAN -- due 2009-05-19 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [14]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/47
[14] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/47
Wilhelm: I have started to write a post
ACTION-47 closed
<trackbot> ACTION-47 Follow-up on publishing details about SPARTAN
closed
<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to draft a blog post on SPARTAN [recorded
in [15]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-mwts-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-52 - Draft a blog post on SPARTAN [on
Wilhelm Joys Andersen - due 2009-05-26].
ACTION-2?
<trackbot> ACTION-2 -- Kai Hendry to continue integrating his tests
WTF -- due 2009-05-01 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [16]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/2
[16] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/2
Kai: I've been exchanging with Robert - good dialog going
... added a couple of tests, but nothing substantial
... the problem is that the widget spec is going through big changes
ACTION-36?
<trackbot> ACTION-36 -- Kai Hendry to provide a tour of WTF during a
call -- due 2009-05-05 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [17]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/36
[17] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/36
<dom_scribe> [18]WTF Tour on Kai's post
[18] http://dabase.com/blog/Widget_Test_Framework/
ACTION-36 closed
<trackbot> ACTION-36 Provide a tour of WTF during a call closed
<hendry> [19]http://wtf.webvm.net/
[19] http://wtf.webvm.net/
Kai: quick tour: point your browser to wtf.webvm.net with opera and
try one of the widget
... still early days, but Robert has been ensuring me that WTF will
be open-sourced
... once that happens I can start investing in it
... would help transparency too
Wilhelm: it should happen
Memory test
<dom_scribe> [20]Memory Test
[20] http://qa-dev.w3.org/2009/memory-test/
ACTION-48?
<trackbot> ACTION-48 -- Kai Hendry to look again into memory test
wrt failures at high memory levels -- due 2009-05-19 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [21]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/48
[21] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/48
Kai: the original test script was in shell, which triggered problems
with Apache (memory, timeout, etc)
... I suspect we would get rid of these problems with PHP
Dom: installed it
<scribe> ACTION: Kai to retest memory test with his devices
[recorded in
[22]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-mwts-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-53 - Retest memory test with his devices
[on Kai Hendry - due 2009-05-26].
<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to retest memory test with his devices
[recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-mwts-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-54 - Retest memory test with his devices
[on Wilhelm Joys Andersen - due 2009-05-26].
Dom: do we need to re-raise the limit in the script?
Kai: probably not, it's already pretty high
... 8.6 MB
ACTION-48 closed
<trackbot> ACTION-48 Look again into memory test wrt failures at
high memory levels closed
Device Indenpendent Testing Guidelines
ACTION-49?
<trackbot> ACTION-49 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to present the
DITG to the W3C chairs -- due 2009-05-19 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [24]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/49
[24] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/49
Web Compatibility Test
<dom_scribe> [25]Web Compatibility Test (WCTMB)
[25] http://www.w3.org/2008/06/mobile-test/
ACTION-44 closed
<trackbot> ACTION-44 Publish updated WCTMB and post a blog about the
update closed
ACTION-39?
<trackbot> ACTION-39 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to look through Kai's
proposals for new tests -- due 2009-05-05 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [26]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/39
[26] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/39
ACTION-39 closed
<trackbot> ACTION-39 Look through Kai's proposals for new tests
closed
Wilhelm: I've looked at it
... test on storage sounds like a good idea
... not sure about onload - just because I don't know enough about
it
... we should also add tests about new things, e.g. selectors APIs
... but we need to discuss what the WCTMB should be
... maybe we should start looking at making a brand new version of
the WCTMB
Dom: I think that would start making sense
... recent suggestion of adding geolocation there too
Kai: not sure we should start a new test for things that fit the
current model
Dom: think would be interesting - could use still a visual approach,
maybe with a different look
Kai: wouldn't want to abandon WCTMB, though
Dom: we should still keep maintaining it and preserving it as a
point of reference in time
Kai: ok sounds good
Wilhelm: I can start looking at that
<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to look at WCTMB2 ideas [recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-55 - Look at WCTMB2 ideas [on Wilhelm Joys
Andersen - due 2009-05-26].
Kai: so Web Storage stuff would be there, right? will start playing
with it
ACTION-55 due 2 weeks
<trackbot> ACTION-55 Look at WCTMB2 ideas due date now 2 weeks
Blog
ACTION-46 closed
<trackbot> ACTION-46 Blog about DITG publication closed
<dom_scribe> [28]DITG announcement
[28] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/blog/2009/05/15/making_web_technologies_robus_on_any_dev
ACTION-50?
<trackbot> ACTION-50 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to publish
Carmelo's draft re memory test in the blog -- due 2009-05-19 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [29]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/50
[29] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/50
Dom: will publish after our next round of tests
ACTION-51?
<trackbot> ACTION-51 -- Kai Hendry to draft a blog post on WTF --
due 2009-05-19 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [30]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/51
[30] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/51
<dom_scribe> [31]Kai's draft post
[31] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009May/0019.html
Dom: looked good to me
Kai: what can I do about images? rather than linking to Flickr
ACTION-45?
<trackbot> ACTION-45 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to propose a plan
for getting contributions from community -- due 2009-05-12 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [32]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/45
[32] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/45
OMA
ACTION-21?
<trackbot> ACTION-21 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to send Opera's
feedback on OMA test suites -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [33]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/21
[33] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/21
ACTION-14?
<trackbot> ACTION-14 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to look back at
OMA situation and report -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [34]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/14
[34] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/14
Next meeting
Regrets from Carmelo
Next Meeting on May 26
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Kai to retest memory test with his devices [recorded
in [35]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-mwts-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Wilhelm to draft a blog post on SPARTAN [recorded in
[36]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-mwts-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Wilhelm to look at WCTMB2 ideas [recorded in
[37]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: Wilhelm to retest memory test with his devices
[recorded in
[38]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-mwts-minutes.html#action03]
[End of minutes]
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