- From: Dominique Hazael-Massieux <dom@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 17:43:36 +0200
- To: public-mwts@w3.org
Hi,
The minutes of our call today are available at:
http://www.w3.org/2009/08/04-mwts-minutes.html
and copied as text below. Note that our next call will be on September
1st.
Dom
Mobile Web Initiative Test Suites Working Group Teleconference
04 Aug 2009
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Aug/0000.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2009/08/04-mwts-irc
Attendees
Present
Wilhelm, Carmelo, Dom, Dmitri, Kai, Marcos
Regrets
Chair
Wilhelm
Scribe
dom
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Widgets testing
2. [6]WCTMB2
3. [7]OMA
4. [8]Next meeting
* [9]Summary of Action Items
_________________________________________________________
Widgets testing
ACTION-52?
<trackbot> ACTION-52 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to draft a blog post
on SPARTAN -- due 2009-05-26 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [10]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/52
[10] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/52
Wilhelm: still pending approval
ACTION-2?
<trackbot> ACTION-2 -- Kai Hendry to continue integrating his tests
WTF -- due 2009-05-01 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [11]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/2
[11] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/2
close ACTION-2
<trackbot> ACTION-2 Continue integrating his tests WTF closed
Kai: regarding WTF, I've been talking with Robert and I have helped
out with instructions on how to install it on Linux
... I've filed an issue about making it easier to contributing tests
... e.g. through a Web form
... Robert thought this was a good idea
ACTION-62?
<trackbot> ACTION-62 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to send feedback
on the contribution guide for widgets test suites -- due 2009-07-07
-- OPEN
<trackbot> [12]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/62
[12] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/62
<dom_scribe> [13]Dom's comments
[13] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Aug/0003.html
Kai: Marcos has probably stuff to say about this as well
... I'll follow-up
Marcos: Kai and I have been discussing his framework
... I've been looking at what would be needed to build the tests
properly - don't think we need that much
... now that the test assertions have been extracted out
... With regard to the contribution guide, we'll link it from the
testing area and the spec
/2006/waf/widgets/tests/guide.html
<Marcos>
[14]http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/Overview_TSE.html#testable-as
sertions
[14] http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/Overview_TSE.html#testable-assertions
<hendry> so the one place is proposed as
<[15]http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/Overview_TSE.html> ?
[15] http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/Overview_TSE.html%3E
Kai: I think it's best to keep everything in one place
Marcos: I'll be integrating all the relevant materials (contribution
guide, test plan) into a single document
<scribe> ACTION: Dom to report back on Marcos' progress wrt
integration of test documentation materials [recorded in
[16]http://www.w3.org/2009/08/04-mwts-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-71 - Report back on Marcos' progress wrt
integration of test documentation materials [on Dominique
Hazaël-Massieux - due 2009-08-11].
ACTION-45 closed
<trackbot> ACTION-45 Propose a plan for getting contributions from
community closed
ACTION-66 closed
<trackbot> ACTION-66 Update the test plan with the latest assertions
closed
ACTION-63 closed
<trackbot> ACTION-63 Add testing strategies to widget test
contrbutions guide closed
ACTION-62 closed
<trackbot> ACTION-62 Send feedback on the contribution guide for
widgets test suites closed
ACTION-67?
<trackbot> ACTION-67 -- Kai Hendry to work with Marcos on developing
templates and contributions guide -- due 2009-08-04 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [17]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/67
[17] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/67
Marcos: will do that later this week
ACTION-70 closed
<trackbot> ACTION-70 Draft blog post about Dusseldorf widget testing
closed
<dom_scribe> [18]invitation to widgets testing event in blog
[18] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/blog/2009/07/29/widget_test_event
WCTMB2
ACTION-68?
<trackbot> ACTION-68 -- Kai Hendry to submit proposals for WCTMB2 --
due 2009-08-04 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [19]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/68
[19] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/68
<dom_scribe> [20]Kai's suggestions for WCTMB2
[20] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Aug/0005.html
Kai: have we considered making the test a widget?
... we could tie in widgets-related tests
Dom: doing it only as a widget seems a bit too restrictive to me
... given that there are no runtime widget engine implementing the
W3C spec
Kai: there are a few, but probably not very compliant
... I also noted to integrate tests from AppCache
... and wondered if we could take some tests from ACID3
Wilhelm: I'm thinking along the same lines, but with different tests
... testing for features rather than bugs
Kai: if we're testing features - I'm not sure how forward-looking we
should be
... I've also proposed an audio test
Wilhelm: audio test sounds good
Dom: not sure we can define how forward-looking we should target;
let's see as we go
Wilhelm: could you turn your proposals into actual code?
Kai: sure
<scribe> ACTION: Kai to propose appcache and audio test [recorded in
[21]http://www.w3.org/2009/08/04-mwts-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-72 - Propose appcache and audio test [on
Kai Hendry - due 2009-08-11].
<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to create test cases for WCTMB2 [recorded
in [22]http://www.w3.org/2009/08/04-mwts-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-73 - Create test cases for WCTMB2 [on
Wilhelm Joys Andersen - due 2009-08-11].
Wilhelm: we basically a bunch of scripts that say yes or no
ACTION-69?
<trackbot> ACTION-69 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to review WCTMB2
proposal -- due 2009-08-04 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> [23]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/69
[23] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/69
<dom_scribe> [24]Dom's comments on WCTMB2
[24] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Aug/0002.html
Dom: in addition to my comments in my email, we should probably make
our test run asynchronously
Kai: that's usually quite painful in Javascript
Dom: isn't it just a matter of using callback functions?
Wilhelm: I was thinking of running them in sequence
Dom: do we need a proposed API?
Wilhelm: I'll make a proposal
<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to propose an API for the tests in WCTMB2
[recorded in
[25]http://www.w3.org/2009/08/04-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-74 - Propose an API for the tests in
WCTMB2 [on Wilhelm Joys Andersen - due 2009-08-11].
<scribe> ACTION: Dom to propose tests for WCTMB2 - due 2009-09-08
[recorded in
[26]http://www.w3.org/2009/08/04-mwts-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-75 - propose tests for WCTMB2 [on
Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2009-09-08].
OMA
ACTION-14?
<trackbot> ACTION-14 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to look back at
OMA situation and report -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [27]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/14
[27] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/14
<dom_scribe> [28]Update's from OMA on XHTML MP test suite
[28] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-mwts/2009Aug/0000.html
ACTION-21?
<trackbot> ACTION-21 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to send Opera's
feedback on OMA test suites -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [29]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/21
[29] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/21
Wilhelm: still pending
Next meeting
RESOLUTION: Next meeting will be September 1st
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Dom to propose tests for WCTMB2 - due 2009-09-08
[recorded in
[30]http://www.w3.org/2009/08/04-mwts-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: Dom to report back on Marcos' progress wrt integration
of test documentation materials [recorded in
[31]http://www.w3.org/2009/08/04-mwts-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Kai to propose appcache and audio test [recorded in
[32]http://www.w3.org/2009/08/04-mwts-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Wilhelm to create test cases for WCTMB2 [recorded in
[33]http://www.w3.org/2009/08/04-mwts-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Wilhelm to propose an API for the tests in WCTMB2
[recorded in
[34]http://www.w3.org/2009/08/04-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
[End of minutes]
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