- From: Dominique Hazael-Massieux <dom@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:24:37 +0200
- To: public-mwts <public-mwts@w3.org>
Hi,
The minutes of our teleconf today are available at:
http://www.w3.org/2008/10/07-mwts-minutes.html
linked from
http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/
and copied as text below.
Dom
MWI Test Suites Working Group teleconf
07 Oct 2008
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Oct/0002.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2008/10/07-mwts-irc
Attendees
Present
dom, Wilhelm, Kai, Dmitri, Carmelo
Regrets
Chair
Dom
Scribe
dom
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Performance test
2. [6]Device Independent Testing Guidelines
3. [7]Cookies test suite
4. [8]Widget test suite
5. [9]Plugin test
6. [10]DOM3 testing
* [11]Summary of Action Items
_________________________________________________________
Performance test
<scribe> ACTION: Dom to blog about performance tests and mobile
[recorded in
[12]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-mwts-minutes.html#action04] [DONE]
[12] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-mwts-minutes.html#action04
<dom_scribe> [13]MWI Blog on "Performance tests and mobile browsers"
[13] http://www.w3.org/blog/MWITeam/2008/10/06/performance_tests_and_mobile_browsers
<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to run the performances test on a few
devices [recorded in
[14]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-mwts-minutes.html#action03] [DONE]
[14] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-mwts-minutes.html#action03
<dom_scribe> [15]Wilhelm's finding on performances test
[15] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Sep/0022.html
<scribe> ACTION: Kai to run the performances test on a few devices
and report back to the list [recorded in
[16]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-mwts-minutes.html#action04] [DONE]
[16] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-mwts-minutes.html#action04
<dom_scribe> [17]Kai's findings on performance test
[17] http://www.w3.org/mid/b24851260809220721v36ea715dy4547731917e6a768@mail.gmail.com
Dom: so, where do we go based on this sorry state of support for
performances test on mobile devices?
Kai: we could compile a list of platforms which do well vs those
that don't
<hendry> [18]http://flickr.com/photos/hendry/2894931307
[18] http://flickr.com/photos/hendry/2894931307
Kai: I think we should draw attention to the Web compatibility test
for mobile browser
... I've been thinking about modifying some of the sunspiders test
to have them skip tests that obviously failed
dom: sounds promising
Wilhelm: I think the coming generation of mobile browsers will be
able to run these tests without any help from us
... not sure we need to spend much time on this
<hendry> [19]http://static.webvm.net/js/frame-message.html # tests
for error
[19] http://static.webvm.net/js/frame-message.html
Kai: agree with Kai; I like the performance tests because they give
an idea of the speed of the device
... and measure how far they are behind the desktops UAs
RESOLUTION: we're not going to invest more time on performance
testing for the time being
Device Independent Testing Guidelines
<scribe> ACTION: Carmelo to start a draft of guidelines on writing
device independent test cases [recorded in
[20]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-mwts-minutes.html#action02] [DONE]
[20] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-mwts-minutes.html#action02
<dom_scribe> [21]Carmelo's draft
[21] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Sep/att-0020/Guidelines_for_Writing_Moibile_Tests.html
<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to review DI testing guielines [recorded in
[22]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-mwts-minutes.html#action06] [DONE]
[22] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-mwts-minutes.html#action06
<dom_scribe> [23]Wilhelm's comments on DI testing guidelines
[23] http://www.w3.org/mid/op.uiapzhkjm3w6te@kugalskapet
<scribe> ACTION: Dom to review DI testing guidelines [recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-mwts-minutes.html#action07]
[PENDING]
[24] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-mwts-minutes.html#action07
Wilhelm: would like to have it in CVS for shared work
<scribe> ACTION: Dom to put the document in CVSV [recorded in
[25]http://www.w3.org/2008/10/07-mwts-minutes.html#action07]
Wilhelm: [summarizing comments]
Cookies test suite
<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to look into opera's test suites for
cookies [recorded in
[26]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
[PENDING]
[26] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-mwts-minutes.html#action04
Wilhelm: just need to release them; probably going to happen in the
next 2 weeks
... there will be cookies, but a much broader package
Widget test suite
<scribe> ACTION: Carmelo to come back with a plan for helping test
widgets specs [recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-mwts-minutes.html#action09] [DONE]
[27] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-mwts-minutes.html#action09
Carmelo: this will be discussed during the WebApps WG F2F in Cannes
<scribe> ACTION: Carmelo to send details about meeting in WebApps WG
F2F re testing [recorded in
[28]http://www.w3.org/2008/10/07-mwts-minutes.html#action10]
Plugin test
<scribe> ACTION: Dom to look closer at the plugin support test
[recorded in
[29]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-mwts-minutes.html#action10]
[PENDING]
[29] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-mwts-minutes.html#action10
Kai: we also have a basic ActiveX test now
... Does Opera has any extension system?
Wilhelm: nope
DOM3 testing
Carmelo: the DOM3 group of the web applications wg is very
interested in using our harness for DOM3 events
Dom: they're welcomed to, if the harness fit their needs
<dom_scribe> [30]Mobile Test Harness code
[30] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2007/mobile-test-harness/
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Carmelo to send details about meeting in WebApps WG
F2F re testing [recorded in
[31]http://www.w3.org/2008/10/07-mwts-minutes.html#action10]
[NEW] ACTION: Dom to put the document in CVSV [recorded in
[32]http://www.w3.org/2008/10/07-mwts-minutes.html#action07]
[PENDING] ACTION: Dom to look closer at the plugin support test
[recorded in
[33]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-mwts-minutes.html#action10]
[PENDING] ACTION: Dom to review DI testing guidelines [recorded in
[34]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-mwts-minutes.html#action07]
[PENDING] ACTION: Wilhelm to look into opera's test suites for
cookies [recorded in
[35]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
[33] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-mwts-minutes.html#action10
[34] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-mwts-minutes.html#action07
[35] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-mwts-minutes.html#action04
[DONE] ACTION: Carmelo to come back with a plan for helping test
widgets specs [recorded in
[36]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-mwts-minutes.html#action09]
[DONE] ACTION: Carmelo to start a draft of guidelines on writing
device independent test cases [recorded in
[37]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-mwts-minutes.html#action02]
[DONE] ACTION: Dom to blog about performance tests and mobile
[recorded in
[38]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
[DONE] ACTION: Kai to run the performances test on a few devices and
report back to the list [recorded in
[39]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
[DONE] ACTION: Wilhelm to review DI testing guielines [recorded in
[40]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-mwts-minutes.html#action06]
[DONE] ACTION: Wilhelm to run the performances test on a few devices
[recorded in
[41]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-mwts-minutes.html#action03]
[36] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-mwts-minutes.html#action09
[37] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-mwts-minutes.html#action02
[38] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-mwts-minutes.html#action04
[39] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-mwts-minutes.html#action04
[40] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-mwts-minutes.html#action06
[41] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-mwts-minutes.html#action03
[End of minutes]
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