- From: Dominique Hazael-Massieux <dom@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 18:24:48 +0200
- To: public-mwts@w3.org
Hi,
The minutes of our call today are available at:
http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-mwts-minutes.html
linked from:
http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/
and copied as text below. Thanks Carmelo for scribing.
Dom
MWI Test Suites Working Group teleconf
24 Apr 2007
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2007Apr/0013.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-mwts-irc
Attendees
Present
Jenise, Carmelo, dom, Till, Dmitri, Allen, Wilhelm
Chair
Dom
Scribe
Carmelo
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Conformance Test suites
2. [6]Community-based Test suite
* [7]Summary of Action Items
_________________________________________________________
Wilhelm introduced himself
and explained his work at Opera
He does have some experience on Mobile device testing and hope to
contribute to group
Wilhelm will working as a replacement for Till.
Till will be leaving the Group.
Any question from Wilhelm for the Group
None at this time. He been reading the mail logs
Conformance Test suites
<dom> ACTION: Dom to look at implementing an id for test session
[recorded in
[8]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/13-mwts-minutes.html#action05]
[PENDING]
[8] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/13-mwts-minutes.html#action05
<dom> ACTION: Dom to look at implementing Till's suggestions for the
DOM Test Suites [recorded in
[9]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-mwts-minutes.html#action06] [DONE]
[9] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-mwts-minutes.html#action06
<dom> [10]Automation of DOM Test suite
[10] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2007Apr/0012.html
Carmelo asked as to when the results are recorded when running the
suite
Results are recorded as the tests are run.
Dom: Automation works on Firefox but not on Opera just yet.
Till will have a look into that.
<scribe> ACTION: Till to do extra reseach on autmatic execution
using Opera [recorded in
[11]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-mwts-minutes.html#action03]
ok waiting on DOM
<dom> ACTION: Dom to look at integrating the WICD test suite into
the harness [recorded in
[12]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-mwts-minutes.html#action10]
[PENDING]
[12] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-mwts-minutes.html#action10
<dom> ACTION: Till to try the SVG Tiny test suite in the harness on
a mobile device [recorded in
[13]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-mwts-minutes.html#action09] [DONE]
[13] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-mwts-minutes.html#action09
Everything seems to have run fine using the Mobile device
Till: made a few comments regarding the test suite itself.
<scribe> ACTION: Till to draft a first message to regarding SVG test
suite [recorded in
[14]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-mwts-minutes.html#action06]
<scribe> ACTION: carmelo: To contact SVG Working group with Till's
comments. [recorded in
[15]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-mwts-minutes.html#action07]
<dom> ACTION: Carmelo to try the SVG Tiny test suite in the harness
on a mobile device [recorded in
[16]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-mwts-minutes.html#action09]
[PENDING]
[16] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-mwts-minutes.html#action09
Dom: Is Opera using teh SVG suite?
Till: Yes very much so
<dom> ACTION: Carmelo to contact the SVG Working Group to let them
know about the test harness including SVG Tiny [recorded in
[17]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-mwts-minutes.html#action11] [DONE]
[17] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-mwts-minutes.html#action11
Till: To post a message regarding Opera's usage of SVG Tiny suite.
<dom> ACTION: Dom to check whether we're allowed to put the WCSS
Test suite in the mobile test harness [recorded in
[18]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/27-mwts-minutes.html#action06]
[PENDING]
[18] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/27-mwts-minutes.html#action06
<dom> ACTION: Dom to explore using XHTML MP as part of the harness
[recorded in
[19]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/27-mwts-minutes.html#action09]
[PENDING]
[19] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/27-mwts-minutes.html#action09
Do we need to do anything specific regarding to testfest (an event
from OMA)
Allen: Asked about moving harness to a more prominent place in W3C
Site
<dom> ACTION: Allen to see from where the harness should be linked
[recorded in
[20]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-mwts-minutes.html#action12]
What about using main page advertised for the harness
Dom: This is usually done for public documents.
Maybe we are not ready for that kind of attention just yet
Allen: Not a strong opinion either way just yet.
<dom> ACTION: Dom to check with SVG and CSS WG whether they want
more visibility of their test suites through the harness [recorded
in [21]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-mwts-minutes.html#action13]
Community-based Test suite
<dom> ACTION: Dom to send responses to respondents of survey
[recorded in
[22]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-mwts-minutes.html#action07] [DONE]
[22] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-mwts-minutes.html#action07
<dom> ACTION: Carmelo to update the test submissions document based
on Dom's comments and put on the W3C site [recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-mwts-minutes.html#action08] [DONE]
[23] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-mwts-minutes.html#action08
<dom> [24][DRAFT] Guidelines for the Mobile Web Test Suites Group
(MWTS) Tests Submissions
[24] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/Open/submission.html
Carmelo: based on a document for XML Query
... [summarizes content of the document]
... positive test: test with well-formed correct content
... negative test: test with content that should trigger an error of
sort
... behavioral test: test that highlights a specific behavior of a
browser
Dom: the point on not using company names on so on should probably
apply to all the content, not only function names
<dom> [25]MWBP Tests cases on encoding
[25] http://www.w3.org/2006/11/mwbp-tests/index.xhtml
<dom> [26]more test cases
[26] http://www.w3.org/2006/09/mobile-tests/index.xhtml
dom: I don't think we need the sections on collation; the point on
URIs should be to use relative URIs rather than absolute URIs
... can remove also the section on XML and namespaces, "Results and
Serialization", as well as numerical boundaries
Dmitri: will send comments by email on positive vs negative tests;
would be good to have examples
Carmeo: will publish an updated version of the document later today
dom: I'll be looking into creating the web interface for submitting
testcases
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Allen to see from where the harness should be linked
[recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-mwts-minutes.html#action12]
[NEW] ACTION: carmelo: To contact SVG Working group with Till's
comments. [recorded in
[28]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-mwts-minutes.html#action07]
[NEW] ACTION: Dom to check with SVG and CSS WG whether they want
more visibility of their test suites through the harness [recorded
in [29]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-mwts-minutes.html#action13]
[NEW] ACTION: Till to do extra reseach on autmatic execution using
Opera [recorded in
[30]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-mwts-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Till to draft a first message to regarding SVG test
suite [recorded in
[31]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-mwts-minutes.html#action06]
[PENDING] ACTION: Carmelo to try the SVG Tiny test suite in the
harness on a mobile device [recorded in
[32]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-mwts-minutes.html#action09]
[PENDING] ACTION: Dom to check whether we're allowed to put the WCSS
Test suite in the mobile test harness [recorded in
[33]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/27-mwts-minutes.html#action06]
[PENDING] ACTION: Dom to explore using XHTML MP as part of the
harness [recorded in
[34]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/27-mwts-minutes.html#action09]
[PENDING] ACTION: Dom to look at implementing an id for test session
[recorded in
[35]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/13-mwts-minutes.html#action05]
[PENDING] ACTION: Dom to look at integrating the WICD test suite
into the harness [recorded in
[36]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-mwts-minutes.html#action10]
[32] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-mwts-minutes.html#action09
[33] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/27-mwts-minutes.html#action06
[34] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/27-mwts-minutes.html#action09
[35] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/13-mwts-minutes.html#action05
[36] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-mwts-minutes.html#action10
[DONE] ACTION: Carmelo to contact the SVG Working Group to let them
know about the test harness including SVG Tiny [recorded in
[37]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-mwts-minutes.html#action11]
[DONE] ACTION: Carmelo to update the test submissions document based
on Dom's comments and put on the W3C site [recorded in
[38]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-mwts-minutes.html#action08]
[DONE] ACTION: Dom to look at implementing Till's suggestions for
the DOM Test Suites [recorded in
[39]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-mwts-minutes.html#action06]
[DONE] ACTION: Dom to send responses to respondents of survey
[recorded in
[40]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-mwts-minutes.html#action07]
[DONE] ACTION: Till to try the SVG Tiny test suite in the harness on
a mobile device [recorded in
[41]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-mwts-minutes.html#action09]
[37] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-mwts-minutes.html#action11
[38] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-mwts-minutes.html#action08
[39] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-mwts-minutes.html#action06
[40] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-mwts-minutes.html#action07
[41] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-mwts-minutes.html#action09
[End of minutes]
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