Re: proposal of DOCTYPE change of MusicXML -- AW: Co-chair meeting minutes: April 25, 2024 [via Music Notation Community Group]

According to https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/ , Recordare held the trademark for "MusicXML," but it's since been abandoned.



> On Apr 29, 2024, at 1:44 AM, Andrew Hankinson <andrew.hankinson@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I guess that depends on the specifics of the transfer of MusicXML to the w3c CG.
> 
> I note that the initial press release says that Recordare transferred “development” of MusicXML to the CG, but it never outright states that it transferred ownership.
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> https://www.musicxml.com/makemusic-transfers-musicxml-development-to-w3c/
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> So who currently owns MusicXML?(trademarks, copyright, etc).
> 
> Andrew
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>> On 29 Apr 2024, at 09:03, pavel.studeny@email.cz wrote:
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>> Agreed, since https://musicxml.org/ doesn't have much other meaningful content, it should be doable to transfer the ownership.
>> Pavel
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>> Od: Reinhold Hoffmann <reinhold@notation.com>
>> Komu: 'Music Notation Community Group' <team-community-process@w3.org>, public-music-notation@w3.org
>> Datum: 26. 4. 2024 5:12:09
>> Předmět: Re: proposal of DOCTYPE change of MusicXML -- AW: Co-chair meeting minutes: April 25, 2024 [via Music Notation Community Group]
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>> Hi, 
>> 
>> Thanks for the minutes. 
>> 
>> With reagrds to 
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>> "Myke proposes that the DOCTYPE system identifier for MusicXML should move 
>> from www.musicxml.org to a URL within w3c.github.io/musicxml, since the 
>> latter is under the control of the CG, while the former (quite rightly) 
>> remains under the stewardship of MakeMusic. We welcome community feedback on 
>> this issue, so please share your thoughts here." 
>> 
>> I would like to object. 
>> 
>> Reasons: 
>> - this is a MusicXML protocol change which requires code changes of the 
>> programs which use MusicXML. I am not sure what it means to downwards 
>> compatibilities. At least for some time both doctypes need to co-exist. 
>> - the URL www.musicxml.org is a neutral URL which reflects "MusicXML" where 
>> w3c.github.io/musicxml is not 
>> - "github" adds another kind of company dependancy to the protocol which 
>> should definitely be avoided 
>> - There should be a difference of "who hosts the URL" vs "the name of the 
>> URL itself" 
>> - if MakeMusic is not willing to host www.musicxml.org any longer, they 
>> should hand it over to community 
>> 
>> Ideally, the hoster should be w3.org but I am not sure if this change can be 
>> managed. 
>> 
>> My 2 cents... 
>> 
>> Thanks 
>> 
>> Regards, 
>> 
>> Reinhold 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- 
>> Von: W3C Community Development Team [mailto:team-community-process@w3.org] 
>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. April 2024 23:32 
>> An: public-music-notation@w3.org 
>> Betreff: Co-chair meeting minutes: April 25, 2024 [via Music Notation 
>> Community Group] 
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>> MNX 
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>> 
>> Adrian has been working on some issues opened by Yuriy Kravets: 
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>> #334: There were several key names in the specification that used hyphens 
>> rather than camel case; Adrian has now fixed this. A few values remain that 
>> contain hyphens, and Adrian plans to fix these in due course. Adrian has 
>> also updated the MNX converter where needed to handle these changes. 
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>> #335: This required adding an enumeration for the showValue value for 
>> tuplets (inner, none, both) 
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>> #333: The staffSymbol object was missing the value none for its enumeration; 
>> this has now been added. 
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>> Myke pointed out that it might be preferable to have more specific values 
>> than "none" for enumerations, since "none" can be a special keyword in 
>> several languages (typically equating to "null", "unknown", or "undefined"). 
>> We spent some time discussing possible approaches to this, and agreed that 
>> in principle we should use a more specific value than "none". Adrian will 
>> review the other enumerations and see which others should be modified. 
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>> Adrian has also been working on the MNX viewer, and it can now handle some 
>> more notations, including accidentals, repeat barlines, and so on. 
>> 
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>> MusicXML 
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>> 
>> Myke proposes that the DOCTYPE system identifier for MusicXML should move 
>> from www.musicxml.org to a URL within w3c.github.io/musicxml, since the 
>> latter is under the control of the CG, while the former (quite rightly) 
>> remains under the stewardship of MakeMusic. We welcome community feedback on 
>> this issue, so please share your thoughts here. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Next meeting 
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>> The next co-chairs' meeting will be in three weeks, on Thursday 16 May 2024. 
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