Re: Co-chair meeting minutes: October 11, 2022 [via Music Notation Community Group]

Another library you could use instead of developing your own music layout
algorithms is Lomse (https://github.com/lenmus/lomse). It is Opens Source,
MIT license, is platform independent, import/exports MusicXML, renders in
SVG and bitmaps, does playback with visual tracking and provides edition
commands with undo/redo support,

On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 1:05 AM Samuel Bradshaw <samuel.h.bradshaw@gmail.com>
wrote:

> (I should mention that Verovio supports more than just web – but I've only
> used it for web myself.)
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> On Nov 8, 2022, at 5:02 PM, Samuel Bradshaw <samuel.h.bradshaw@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> The best library I've come across so far that supports Android natively
> (i.e. not just a JavaScript wrapper) is SeeScore (
> https://www.seescore.co.uk). SeeScore supports Android, iOS, and Windows
> (but not web). It's not open-source, unfortunately, but it's pretty well
> supported.
>
> We're using some of the basic features of SeeScore to display hymns in an
> iOS and Android app I support (Gospel Library), and we're looking at using
> some of the more advanced functionality (like transposing, audio playback,
> etc.) in a second app.
>
> Jörg, I'm looking forward to hearing more about your project as you make
> progress!
>
> For web, I second the recommendation of Verovio. However, I hadn't heard
> of Guido until now, so I'm excited to learn more about that. Thanks to
> everyone for sharing all of these libraries!
>
> – Samuel
>
> On Nov 8, 2022, at 11:53 AM, Hohwiller, Jörg <
> joerg.hohwiller@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Arsiah, Andrew and Jim,
>
> thank you for your answers and links that are very interesting and helpful.
>
> During my earlier research I stumbled over the Guido project but have
> never heard of Verovio that looks very comprehensive.
>
> I will surely start putting links from my project to these alternative
> projects as it is always very helpful to find from one product to other
> alternatives or related projects.
>
> As we seem to believe into sharing, exchange and open-source when I have
> some desperate and sleepless nights implementing the finest details of
> rendering beamed notes I might dig into Verovio code to get some
> inspiration. However, in case I take more than a tiny inspiration, I will
> surely put according credits in my code.
>
> For the record: Before I started my project, I did some research and tried
> to avoid the extraordinary effort of reinventing the wheel by reusing
> existing libraries. I could make some JavaScript based approaches like
> abc.js to work but reaching proper UX and deeply integrating into Android
> did not seem to work flawless. With Guido I could not really find the right
> introductions how to get started integrating this into an Android app so I
> might have another look. Converting my own format to MusicXML and use Guido
> from there might still be some kind of shortcut but I have already
> implemented quite a lot. Open-Source Java libs I found however did not seem
> to have a really usable state or quality for what I intend and after 20
> years of Java coding this is my home-turf where I am extremely productive
> and what is also perfect for building android apps.
>
> Kind regards
>
>   Jörg
> Am 08.11.2022 um 08:34 schrieb Arshia Cont:
>
> Further follow-up: an interesting alternative is of course GuidoLib that
> provides Native rendering engine for iOS, Android, NPM, SVG and more:
> https://guido.grame.fr/
>
> and it’s also open source!
>
> For converting MusicXML to Guido format:
> https://github.com/grame-cncm/libmusicxml
>
> Arshia Cont
> metronautapp.com
>
>
>
> On 8 Nov 2022, at 08:01, Andrew Hankinson <andrew.hankinson@gmail.com>
> <andrew.hankinson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Just to follow up on Jim' suggestion, there are Java bindings for Verovio
> based on SWIG:
> https://book.verovio.org/installing-or-building-from-sources/other-bindings.html
>
> They may need a bit of "exercise" -- we're not aware of many people using
> that particular binding so it hasn't had extensive testing -- but it may
> work for your purposes. Verovio also supports ABC input, as well as
> MusicXML. The output is SVG.
>
> -Andrew
>
> On 7 Nov 2022, at 22:56, Jim DeLaHunt <list+w3c@jdlh.com>
> <list+w3c@jdlh.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 2022-11-06 11:48, Hohwiller, Jörg wrote:
>
> Dear music-notation group,
>
> I am an open-source developer (as well as professional software developer
> and architect) and musician and just joined this group to get some exchange
> and help.
>
> Hello, Jörg, and welcome to this community group!
>
> ...Currently I am working on rendering the model to graphics (music
> sheet). To make my code re-uasble I started creating a rendering engine
> that can do the complex layout computation as an abstract reusable renderer
> that I can then reuse for Android SDK graphics, JavaFx, or generation of
> PDF or SVG....
>
>
> Are you familiar with Verovio <https://github.com/rism-digital/verovio>
> <https://github.com/rism-digital/verovio>? It is a rendering library
> which is fairly well-used and fairly capable. Maybe you can link to it and
> call it. Maybe you can use it for design ideas.
>
> Best regards,
>    —Jim DeLaHunt
>
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> .   --Jim DeLaHunt, jdlh@jdlh.com     http://blog.jdlh.com/ (
> http://jdlh.com/)
>     multilingual websites consultant
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