Re: Co-chair Meeting Minutes: April 14, 2020 [via Music Notation Community Group]

Maybe there's a way to keep an official version while keeping it off of
Daniel's busy plate? We have a lot of members, and since it doesn't sound
like much effort is involved to create the SVG version, perhaps someone
could do the conversion for Daniel? Just a thought.

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 4:58 AM Daniel Spreadbury <D.Spreadbury@steinberg.de>
wrote:

> Hi Jeremy,
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> If there’s sufficient demand I can of course reverse this decision. I was
> trying to make my own life a bit easier!
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> But there is also nothing to stop the community distributing an SVG
> version of Bravura, though there is the slight complication that under the
> terms of the OFL, any derivative version must have a different name that
> doesn’t include the reserved name “Bravura”. So really the SVG version
> would need to be part of the official distribution to be useful, I think.
>
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>
> Daniel
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> *From: *Jeremy Sawruk <jeremy.sawruk@gmail.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, 15 April 2020 at 14:18
> *To: *Erik Ronström <erik@ompom.se>
> *Cc: *"public-music-notation@w3.org" <public-music-notation@w3.org>
> *Subject: *Re: Co-chair Meeting Minutes: April 14, 2020 [via Music
> Notation Community Group]
> *Resent from: *<public-music-notation@w3.org>
> *Resent date: *Wednesday, 15 April 2020 at 14:17
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> Even though Bravura might not be officially available in SVG format
> anymore, it is distributed under the SIL Open Font License. It is possible
> to convert the official font into SVG format, so could "Bravura-SVG" be a
> community project rather than an official project? Maybe there could be a
> community fork of the font on Github?
>
>
>
> I'm split on whether there should be an official SVG distribution of
> Bravura. On the one hand, SMuFL is part of the W3C CG, and should strive to
> conform to web standards. However, there are valid use cases for the SVG
> font outside of web use. I think that a community distribution of the SVG
> format of the official font might be a compromise solution, but this will
> take work from the community.
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>
>
> Daniel, would such a community distribution be permissible?
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> On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 6:53 AM Erik Ronström <erik@ompom.se> wrote:
>
> FWIW, I use the SVG font from time to time to extract single glyphs for
> inserting into dynamically built SVGs, in the browser.
>
> The reason is that this enables me to capture mouse events on the actual
> glyph, rather than just the bounding box, which is generally way too high.
>
> Of course, another kind of font file could still be converted to SVG in
> the future, but so far it has been convenient to have easy access to the
> SVG glyphs of Bravura!
>
> Erik
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> > 15 apr. 2020 kl. 12:23 skrev James Sutton <jsutton@dolphin-com.co.uk>:
> >
> > Hi Daniel,
> >
> > I see browsers do not support SVG fonts any longer, but what about
> non-browsers?
> >
> > It has always seemed to me that music symbols are not a natural fit for
> a font which is designed for text. SVG seems ideal.
> >
> > The Bravura font is a very good and complete set of musical symbols and
> I have been drawing on it for use in SeeScore which stores and reads
> symbols in SVG. This is very important for SeeScore which operates across
> different platforms with a very small amount of platform-specific code
> which handles lines, curves and simple text. The handling of text across
> platforms is very variable and it is very difficult or impossible to get
> the text handling identical between platforms. The SVG can be handled with
> an interpreter which converts the string directly to line and curve
> graphics calls, and this works perfectly.
> >
> > Is there a converter to generate SVG from OpenType?
> >
> > with best regards
> > James Sutton
> > Dolphin Computing
> > www.dolphin-com.co.uk
> > www.seescore.co.uk
> > www.playscore.co
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 14 Apr 2020, at 22:21, Daniel Spreadbury <D.Spreadbury@steinberg.de>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I refer you to the issue on GitHub where this is discussed:
> >>
> >> https://github.com/steinbergmedia/bravura/issues/23
> >>
> >> Daniel
> >>
> >> On 14/04/2020, 21:36, "Glenn Linderman" <v+smufl@g.nevcal.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>    On 4/14/2020 1:13 PM, James Sutton wrote:
> >>> Why are you retiring the SVG version of Bravura?
> >>> Some of us use it!
> >>
> >>    One reason might be documented here:
> >>    https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/SVG/Element/font
> >>
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