Re: Trill fonts (Whole step trill, and Half-step trill, ligatures, and turns?)

Thanks for raising this issue, Kentaro.

I agree that these notations are used in commercial copying. I believe 
that they have arisen out of the fact that scoring software cannot 
typically display the appropriate accidental along with the trill based on 
the note to which the trill is applied, and the current transposition 
(which may result in the same trill needing to display different 
accidentals in different contexts), and this notation is a way of 
displaying the trill interval in a simple and reliable way.

The question, I think, is whether it makes sense to add "W", "H", and 
"1/2" to the 'Ornaments' range (or a new supplemental range if necessary), 
given that these characters are widely available in any text font and it 
is possible, if not probable, that the user would want the font for these 
characters to follow the text fonts otherwise in use for the score.

My inclination is that we should not add these glyphs to SMuFL on this 
basis, but of course there is precedent for doing it the other way (e.g. 
the "D.C." et al. characters that were inherited from the existing musical 
symbols Unicode range).

I welcome feedback from the community about this issue.

Daniel



From:   "Kentaro Sato (Ken-P)" <kentaro.sato@yahoo.com>
To:     "public-music-notation-contrib@w3.org" 
<public-music-notation-contrib@w3.org>
Date:   28/09/2017 16:05
Subject:        Trill fonts (Whole step trill, and Half-step trill, 
ligatures, and  turns?)



Dear All

As the number of film/game/TV cues written in concert C key has increased, 
many scoring composers and orchestrators have started to use trill 
notation which specifies the interval (a whole step or a half step) rather 
than using sharp/natural/flat or with a small destination note. I had 
found this whole-step and half-step trill notation to be very useful, and 
I would like the community to think this issue. 

The main idea is to use "tr" with "W" "H" or "1/2".  "W" is for whole-note 
trill, and "H" or "1/2" are for half-step trill. 

I have personally use "W" and "1/2," and put those above the "tr" since 
that use less horizontal space. 
However, I have seen "W" "H" or "1/2" placed after "tr." 

So, my questions are

1) Whether this issue to be considered or not.
2) If yes, whether "W" "H" or "1/2" are best way for specifying trill 
intervals for international music community in mind. 
3) Where those additional characters to be placed? Above "tr", next to 
"tr", or other?
4) Whether these additional characters to be used for "turn notation" for 
recommended ligatures. Please refer to recommended ligatures at 
https://w3c.github.io/smufl/gitbook/tables/common-ornaments.html

Thank you for your consideration, and here is examples!



 
Sincerely Yours

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Kentaro Sato (Ken-P)
Composer & Conductor
Wiseman Project LLC/GK (President & CEO)
http://www.wisemanproject.com
kentaro.sato@yahoo.com
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