- From: Jonathan Greenberg <jgreenberg@rilm.org>
- Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 11:42:35 -0400
- To: Daniel Spreadbury <D.Spreadbury@steinberg.de>
- Cc: public-music-notation-contrib@w3.org
- Message-ID: <CAFkNjSs3mBw5kP2i4ztznLR0S9FuXG=RNytV1anUkUig31LEww@mail.gmail.com>
Thanks, Daniel. Where do the human-readable names on the glyph tables in the Specification section on the SMuFL site come from? The alternates and ligatures on pages such as https://w3c.github.io/smufl/gitbook/tables/time-signatures.html all have human-readable descriptions. Jonathan On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 5:47 AM, Daniel Spreadbury < D.Spreadbury@steinberg.de> wrote: > Hi Jonathan, > > Because ligatures and stylistic alternates are not part of the core set of > SMuFL characters, the SMuFL metadata files can't provide any details about > where these things might be found in specific fonts. However, the Bravura > JSON metadata file does contain details of all of the optional glyphs and > ligatures, in the glyphsWithAlternates, ligatures, optionalGlyphs, and sets > nodes of the metadata file. > > > https://github.com/steinbergmedia/bravura/blob/master/redist/bravura_metadata.json > > For the alternates, you can get a description by getting the description > for the core glyph for which this is an alternate, though you can't easily > come up with a human readable description; you could come up with one by > matching the alternate glyph name with the core glyph name, and taking the > remaining substring and adding it to the end of the core glyph's > description in parentheses, perhaps. > > For the ligatures, you could do a similar thing: get the human-readable > description for the core glyphs that are listed in the ligature and append > them together with some kind of separator to make a description. > > Daniel > > > > From: Jonathan Greenberg <jgreenberg@rilm.org> > To: public-music-notation-contrib@w3.org > Date: 22/07/2016 16:16 > Subject: SMuFL Metadata for ligatures and alternates > ------------------------------ > > > > > We an using BravuraText in a web-based XML editor for MGG Online (a > German-language music encyclopedia), and most of the use cases for > inserting SMuFL character are one character at a time. (As an example, for > the article on "Furlana": " Seit dem 16. Jh. wurden aber bereits > Musikstücke mit dem Titel ballo furlano im einfachen zweizeitigen Takt > ( oder 2/2) und mit bewegtem Tempo gedruckt.") > > Because of this, and because we have not built an application to allow > users to position glyphs relative to one another, our authors and editors > cannot insert strings of SMuFL characters into their text. In order to make > this work, we need to offer the recommended ligatures in addition to the > standard set of of SMuFL code points. The problem is that, while ligatures > and alternates are includes in the SMuFL documentation, the SMuFL metadata > files (which we use to created configuration files for our XML editor) do > not contain ligatures or alternates. 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