- From: Joe Berkovitz <joe@noteflight.com>
- Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 17:07:34 -0400
- To: James Ingram <j.ingram@netcologne.de>
- Cc: public-music-notation-contrib@w3.org, Jim DeLaHunt <from.w3c@jdlh.com>
- Message-ID: <CA+ojG-asUCwL+ENoDLZG7=j-aST77n-ENg4CVqbLO0-azeXdxQ@mail.gmail.com>
Hi James, > As I said at the recent face-to-face in Frankfurt, I don't think one can > legislate on the meaning of a particular glyph. The simplest glyphs (for > example the dot '.', plus '+', or zero '0') are particularly often > overloaded to mean different things in different contexts: Dots are used > for augmentation of durations, staccato, as noteheads etc. A plus glyph (+) > can mean simple addition in a mathematical text, hand-stopping in horn > parts, be part of a complex time-signature etc. > Within the confines of an accepted corpus of notation and performance practice (e.g. the bulk of CWMN works), one absolutely *can* agree on the meanings of a glyph -- in fact, such legislation is one of the advantages of any notational system that has a substantial body of practitioners in the world. Even overloaded glyphs can be understood in one way or another, and these distinctions can be captured in an encoding ("+" in a time signature is not encoded the same way as "+" as an articulation on a note). I fear that this thread is headed down a meta-rabbit-hole of extreme abstraction, in its effort to support open-ended definitions of any musical language. There will then be a need for a musical meta-language as well (for describing the structure and musical meaning of the arbitrary language). Such a meta-language is a very interesting problem, but if we take it on, I do not envision this group making meaningful progress with respect to our charter to develop a useful encoding for the very large body of existing works. Perhaps a separate group would like to break off and develop such a meta-notation-language as a separate effort. If successful -- a big if -- it could possibly serve as a separate document that supplies semantic definitions for glyphs used in a score, supplementing the work done in this group. This stance doesn't mean we can't support graphical scores, or include arbitrary, non-canonical glyphs and notations in scores. But I believe that it's best *within our encoding system* to allow these to act as opaque, literal glyphs for which there is no particular interpretation. In the future a separate effort -- perhaps yours -- to describe arbitrary notational systems may succeed in supplying those interpretations. In the meantime, the real world of musical practice supplies a very effective set of interpretations for widely accepted notation systems. ...Joe
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