- From: L Peter Deutsch <aemusic@major2nd.com>
- Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 07:09:56 -0800 (PST)
- To: Robin Walker <rdhw@cam.ac.uk>
- CC: public-music-notation-contrib@w3.org
> Sibelius 6.1 is over 6 years old, and is not even the latest free update > for the Sibelius 6.x line. > > Maybe you should try a more recent version of Sibelius? I cannot upgrade Finale beyond 2012, and I am sure I cannot upgrade Sibelius beyond 6.2 (the last free update offered for 6.x), because newer versions of these applications require newer versions of MacOS; and I cannot upgrade MacOS beyond 10.6.8, because newer versions of MacOS require newer Apple hardware; and I cannot upgrade my hardware any further, because Apple did not design it to be upgraded beyond its current level. The sibelius.com Web site says the current release of Sibelius requires MacOS 10.9 or later. I'm downloading the 6.2 update now (it will take several hours, because I live in a rural area), but even if it will install and run on my Mac system, it too is surely several years old. Sibelius, like Finale (and most commercial MS Windows and MacOS applications, and MS Windows and MacOS themselves), shackles users to the upgrade treadmill. That is why I run only Open Source OSs and applications on all of my computers, except when there is no alternative. There too I am forced onto the upgrade treadmill at times (I had to upgrade Ubuntu Linux earlier this year to be able to run a version of Firefox recent enough to access an essential Web site), but I am not forced to pay hundreds of dollars for new, buggy software releases every year or two, or to replace my hardware every couple of years if I don't want to. (Yes, Open Source software has bugs too, but they get fixed on a timescale determined by the community and not by a single vendor.) > If you have full reproduction for a MusicXML import bug, it's useful to > ensure that the repro is reported on http://sibelius.ideascale.com/ sibelius.ideascale.com is a "feedback community": I don't understand what connection it has with Avid's developers, since it's not an avid.com or sibelius.com system. I tried to access the site, but the very first page stalled in downloading, most likely because it requires a newer Web browser than I can install on my Mac (see above). In any case, do you have reason to think that Avid will even look at bugs reported in Sibelius 6.2? That would be quite exceptional for a maker of commercial software. On the other hand, Avid did provide me with an older version of Sibelius when I requested one for compatibility testing, which MakeMusic would not do for Finale, despite my having paid for licensed copies of newer versions in both cases. Meanwhile, this is a nice example supporting my strong advocacy of open file formats, even undocumented ones. If Sibelius and Finale didn't deliberately lock up their native file formats, third parties would have a shot at creating their own, better importers and exporters. I made this point on the mup users discussion list recently: Finale and mup have compatible models of headers / footers / page numbering / left/right page adjustment that are more semantically oriented than that of MusicXML, so a direct Finale-to-mup translator could do a better job than one that uses MusicXML as an intermediate format; but because Finale has encrypted their file format as of 2014 (and Sibelius has always encrypted theirs, at least as far back as I have samples), such a translator cannot be written now, at least not one that can be written without a NDA and used without running a sufficiently recent licensed copy of Finale. (The situation in Sibelius is only a bit better: ManuScript plug-ins do not require a NDA, but they don't have access to all of the score information, at least as of 6.x, and they also require running Sibelius.) If MusicXML or something inspired by it can reach maturity as a well-specified, well-implemented standard, users will have alternatives to this situation. Despite the serious issues I've encountered with MusicXML in both design and practice, I am still optimistic that this may be possible. Finally, I've received a number of helpful suggestions for where to look for an existing (or nearly-existing :-)) MusicXML renderer. Thanks to all who responded to my request. L Peter Deutsch
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