RE: Meeting minutes from today's call

Hi Arle, Felix, all

 

In the last meeting, we said:

 

>> Upcoming meetings: 18. December. After that 8 January. Then every three
(e.g., January 29, Feb. 19)

I do not know if today we still have call. In any case I have to go now and
I cannot attend it. If you need anything just tell me. 

 

I know I have pending the short tokens about each data category (Readiness
and Localization Note). I will complete them as soon as we have the final
template.

 

Sorry and all the best,

Pedro

 

De: Arle Lommel [mailto:arle.lommel@dfki.de] 
Enviado el: miércoles, 11 de diciembre de 2013 15:03
Para: public-i18n-its-ig@w3.org; Multilingual Web LT Public List Public List
Asunto: Meeting minutes from today’s call

 

Hello all,

 

Today’s meeting was a bit light on attendance, but we covered the agenda.
Minutes are here:

 

http://www.w3.org/2013/12/11-i18nits-minutes.html

 

And for those who want to read them in email, they are included below.

 

-Arle

 

W3C
- DRAFT -

ITS IG

11 Dec 2013

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Yves, Arle, Ankit, philr, pedro, Milan, DaveLewis
Regrets
Felix, Pablo, David_Filip
Chair
Arle Lommel
Scribe
Arle
Contents

            • Topics

                        • outreach update

                        • Introduction

                        • outreach update

                        • business value text

                        • Translate data category benefit

                        • Current needs of XLIFF 1.2 (2.0?) mapping

                        • AOB

            • Summary of Action Items

outreach update

<scribe> scribe: Arle
Introduction

Gary: introduction. Involved with ITS and connections to various interesting
things in context of doctoral work. And also Internationalization architect
at Cisco.

outreach update

Arle: provided demo of video so far.

Phil: Animation looks good.

<Ankit> liked it!
Gary: Looks a bit slow.

Arle: In editing we hope to speed it up.

business value text

http://www.w3.org/International/its/wiki/Business_value_of_ITS

Pedro: ITS 2.0 opens up ways of win-win business
... It can accelerate the adoption of multilingual web solutions for new
users, and resolve certain problem to existing users:
... Reduction of time by increasing the efficiency of the process.
... Cost savings in management and translation.
... More efficient control over the content and faster fine-grain
communication between localization chain actors (e.g. webmaster/project
manager).
... Better web and linguistic technology machine/machine and human/machine
interaction.
... Increasing fully automatic processes and localization expert systems in
CMS and TMS.
... Localization platforms and format Independent.
... Opens up ways for connectors, pre- and post-editing, and CAT tools.
... Business opportunities exist in very frequently updated web sites which
need efficient multilingual updates and maximum control, such as corporate
and industrial information, e-Government, e-Commerce or Educational web
sites.
... Also, ITS 2.0 can benefit those environments with highly distributed
content creation through the CMS, the Web 2.0 and user content created
(applying MT systems for immediacy) and using ITS 2.0 to contribute for
multilingual SEO.

Phil: This includes the major points. Nothing seems to be missed.
... It looks like the sort of things I could stick on a slide and show a
customer.

Gary: I would be useful, but to what extent, we don't know.

Arle: I think it covers the points we need. It should be edited a bit.

Christian: Could we have one or two numbers in it? Like cost and time
decreases?

Pedro: We could put in a range. Of course it depends on the technology and
solution in the back office. If we talk about management costs in CMS/TMS,
the reduction is in the management side, but lower on the translation side,
unless you use real-time MT.

Arle: Pedro, please add a range of figures we could defend.
... Pedro, when you make changes, I'll help edit.

Translate data category benefit

http://www.w3.org/International/its/wiki/Description_of_ITS_benefit_per_data
_category#Translate

Jirka was supposed to handle this, but isn't on the call, so moving on.

Current needs of XLIFF 1.2 (2.0?) mapping

<Yves_> I recall we have some change to make in the wiki for the locnote
reference (Nathan and I had a discussion about it)
<Yves_> too busy to do anything for now
<Yves_> ok
Arle: Let's table until Yves can do more or David is back.

AOB: issues and proposed features, general action item review

https://www.w3.org/International/its/ig/track/actions/open

https://www.w3.org/International/its/ig/track/actions/8

https://www.w3.org/International/its/ig/track/actions/14

https://www.w3.org/International/its/ig/track/actions/29

<scribe> postponed first two by one month. Third to December 20.
<pedro> Range of reductions: "Reduction of time (up to 60%) by increasing
the efficiency of the process. // • Cost savings in management and
translation (between 15% and 40%)."
https://www.w3.org/International/its/ig/track/actions/9

Christian: Those numbers are impressive.

Pedro: the base-line is compared to fully manual, but 15% is realistic, even
in manual processes by reducing cycles and churn. The 40% is in MT
scenarios.

Dave: Action 9 postpone one week.

https://www.w3.org/International/its/ig/track/actions/11

Dave: Covered in one meeting. Applies to domain and one other where the data
value is user defined. My action for next week is to start documentation on
ITS ontology. We don't have comments or a way to document it properly.
... Close the action and we'll add the results back in in the future.

https://www.w3.org/International/its/ig/track/actions/33

<scribe> Postponed until Dec. 18.
https://www.w3.org/International/its/ig/track/actions/30

<scribe> Postponed to Jan. 8.
AOB

Dave: Did we resolve timing of information on individual categories.

Arle: Let's reschedule them for faster roll-out.

Dave: Nobody will write a lot and it isn't a lot of work, but a timetable
will help.

<scribe> ACTION: daveL to revise schedule of roll-out for info on individual
data categories. [recorded
inhttp://www.w3.org/2013/12/11-i18nits-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-34 - Revise schedule of roll-out for info on
individual data categories. [on David Lewis - due 2013-12-18].
Upcoming meetings: 18. December. After that 8 January. Then every three
(e.g., January 29, Feb. 19)

<chriLi> quit
URI for regular calls:
http://www.w3.org/International/its/wiki/Dial_in_info_for_regular_call

<Yves_> bye
Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: daveL to revise schedule of roll-out for info on individual
data categories. [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2013/12/11-i18nits-minutes.html#action01]
 
[End of minutes]