RE: [ACTION-273]: Discuss casing issue with Lucy Software

Thank you!

 

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De: Yves Savourel [mailto:ysavourel@enlaso.com] 
Enviado el: miércoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 15:30
Para: 'Thomas Ruedesheim'; 'Pablo Nieto Caride'; 'Ankit K. Srivastava'
CC: public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org
Asunto: RE: [ACTION-273]: Discuss casing issue with Lucy Software

 

Thanks Thomas!

The algorithm is updated.

 

http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#domain-implementation

 

That should close action-273.

 

-ys

 

From: Thomas Ruedesheim [mailto:thomas.ruedesheim@lucysoftware.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 7:21 AM
To: Yves Savourel; Pablo Nieto Caride; Ankit K. Srivastava
Cc: public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org
Subject: RE: [ACTION-273]: Discuss casing issue with Lucy Software

 

Hi Yves,

 

yes, that's ok for me, as long as the mapped values are passed in the original casing.

 

Best,

Thomas

 

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From: Yves Savourel [mailto:ysavourel@enlaso.com] 
Sent: Mittwoch, 7. November 2012 15:09
To: 'Pablo Nieto Caride'; Thomas Ruedesheim; 'Ankit K. Srivastava'
Cc: public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org
Subject: RE: [ACTION-273]: Discuss casing issue with Lucy Software

Hi Pablo, Thomas,

 

It looks like making sure we pass the values as found would work with Lucy’s and DCU system.

(I don’t see how it couldn’t work since they would get the original casing :)

 

So if I don’t hear anything else I’ll go with that and make the update in the algorithm in the spec.

 

Thanks,

-yves

 

 

 

From: Pablo Nieto Caride [mailto:pablo.nieto@linguaserve.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 5:03 AM
To: 'Thomas Ruedesheim'; 'Ankit K. Srivastava'
Cc: public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org
Subject: RE: [ACTION-273]: Discuss casing issue with Lucy Software

 

Here is Yves suggestion:

It seems we may have two contradictory aspects:

 

-1) HTML is not case-sensitive, so the domains taken of meta-keywords need to be mapped in a case-insensitive way.

 

-2) We can't know for sure if the MT system will be case-sensitive or not (We can in our use cases, but not in general).

 

So maybe we can do this:

 

- do the lowercasing when looking for mapped values in domainMapping.

- but ensure we return the values 9mapped or not) in the original case we got them.

 

Cheers,

-yves

 

So this would ensure that the algorithm works with any MT System. In any case we need to know your opinion and DCU’s to close the Action.

 

Cheers,

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De: Thomas Ruedesheim [mailto:thomas.ruedesheim@lucysoftware.com] 
Enviado el: miércoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 12:08
Para: Pablo Nieto Caride; Ankit K. Srivastava
CC: public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org
Asunto: RE: [ACTION-273]: Discuss casing issue with Lucy Software

 

Hi Pablo, hi Ankit,

 

the domain names that are passed as translation parameter to our MT engine consist of uppercase letters only (plus hyphen '-'). It would be easier to stick to that specification. I can send you a list of currently defined values, if needed.

 

Kind regards,

Thomas

 

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From: Pablo Nieto Caride [mailto:pablo.nieto@linguaserve.com] 
Sent: Dienstag, 6. November 2012 17:46
To: Thomas Ruedesheim; 'Ankit K. Srivastava'
Cc: public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org
Subject: [ACTION-273]: Discuss casing issue with Lucy Software

Hi Thomas,

 

During the TPAC we discussed (maybe you are aware, http://www.w3.org/2012/11/02-mlw-lt-minutes.html) the possibility of lowercasing the mapping result in the domain algorithm (http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#domain), so as to polishing it a little bit. Since

you normally use your SUBJECT AREAS in uppercase (see file attached), we need to know if it is ok for you or we better do it the other way around, Ankit already confirmed that he is fine with the approach.

 

We need feedback from you asap to close this action https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/273 before Friday for it is holiday that day in Madrid.

 

Cheers,

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