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Question on "localization properties" (Re: [spec] question)

From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 20:35:18 +0200
Message-ID: <CAL58czqgmtptP7QH8VTQ7gEc7LPosnGv0ouPx1oQ51gGTxas3Q@mail.gmail.com>
To: Yves Savourel <ysavourel@enlaso.com>, Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
Cc: Arle Lommel <arle.lommel@dfki.de>, Multilingual Web LT Public List <public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org>
Putting Richard into the loop,

Hi Richard,

see below. Bottom line: Arle was wondering about the mention of
"localization properties" and did some rewording in ITS 2.0. Is this
http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#out-of-scope
OK with you?

Best,

Felix

2012/7/20 Yves Savourel <ysavourel@enlaso.com>

> That or what was there before work for me.****
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> Removing it entirely would work for me as well.****
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> We should probably wait for Felix and Richard’s input before updating
> this: one of them wrote that I think.****
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> -ys****
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> *From:* Arle Lommel [mailto:arle.lommel@dfki.de]
> *Sent:* Friday, July 20, 2012 11:34 AM
> *To:* Yves Savourel
> *Cc:* 'Multilingual Web LT Public List'
> *Subject:* Re: [spec] question****
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> Yves, I think that makes sense, so how about the following rewrite?****
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> The definition of what a localization process or localization parameters
> must address is outside the scope of this specification and it does not
> address all of the mechanisms or data formats (sometimes called *Localization
> Properties*) that may be be needed to configure localization workflows or
> process specific formats. However, it does define standard data categories
> that may be used in defining localization workflows or processing specific
> formats.****
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> If I understand your statement, I think this is a clearer formulation.
> Does it work for you?****
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> -Arle****
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> On Jul 20, 2012, at 11:26 , Yves Savourel wrote:****
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> Hi Arle,****
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>  ****
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> My 2 cents: I think this basically says: “ITS doesn’t make specific
> provisions to tell you what a localization workflow
> configuration/parameters should be. It just provide some standard data that
> may be useable to define your own.”****
>
>  ****
>
> -ys****
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>  ****
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> *From:* Arle Lommel [mailto:arle.lommel@dfki.de <arle.lommel@dfki.de>]
> *Sent:* Friday, July 20, 2012 10:59 AM
> *To:* Multilingual Web LT Public List
> *Subject:* [spec] question****
>
>  ****
>
> Hello all,****
>
>  ****
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> I've got a quick question about a passage in the spec that I find very
> confusing:****
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>  ****
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> This standard does not cover all mechanisms and data formats (sometimes
> called *Localization Properties*) that might be needed for configuring
> localization workflows or tools to process a specific format. However,
> these mechanisms and data formats may be implemented using the framework
> described in this standard.****
>
>  ****
>
> If I follow this, it is simply saying that there will be some things
> needed to support localization that simply remain outside the scope of this
> document (e.g., most of the requirements bits that won't make it in the
> spec), which seems right. But then what does the second sentence mean? It
> seems to be saying that there is a bunch of stuff outside the scope of this
> document but you can implement it using what is in this document. But that
> doesn't make sense. Let's suppose I want to implement a mechanism to use
> translation parameters (a data format from Linport) along with the
> translation. There is nothing in the "framework described in this standard"
> to tell me how to do that, and this statement therefore seems misleading.*
> ***
>
>  ****
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> Maybe I'm missing an obvious interpretation, but I just don't get what
> this means. So I do think it needs to be clearer. Can anyone help clarify
> the intent here?****
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>  ****
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> -Arle****
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Felix Sasaki
DFKI / W3C Fellow
Received on Monday, 23 July 2012 18:35:44 UTC

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