- From: Tadej Stajner <tadej.stajner@ijs.si>
- Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 10:37:11 +0200
- To: MultilingualWeb-LT Working Group <public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org>
- Cc: "public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org" <public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org>
Hi, the reasoning for this particular was separating the entity and the annotation of the content as two distinct elements. I like the idea of keeping the type info in ITS XML space, it would make for cleaner transforms. -- Tadej On 5. jul. 2012, at 23:48, MultilingualWeb-LT Working Group Issue Tracker <sysbot+tracker@w3.org> wrote: > mlw-lt-track-ISSUE-35 (named-entity-syntax-could-use-rdfa-and-microdata): Named entity syntax could use microdata and RDFa in HTML5, and a dedicated syntax in XML only [MLW-LT Standard Draft] > > http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/35 > > Raised by: Felix Sasaki > On product: MLW-LT Standard Draft > > Hi Tadej esp. and all, > > today I looked at some automatic annotation output I got from Michael. It was created by Enrycher. As I understand it this is experimental, but I wanted to bring one aspect to your attention. The below is simplified: > > Input: > > <p>After a century of near domination from the likes of Italy and Germany, international soccer is entering the era of the Cinderella. Russia's Yuri Zhirkov ...</p> > > Output: > > <p>After a century of near domination from the likes of <span itsx-lexicalizes="dbr:Italy" itsx-entity-type="http://schema.org/Place">Italy</span> and <span itsx-lexicalizes="dbr:Germany" itsx-entity-type="http://schema.org/Place">Germany</span>, international soccer is entering the era of the Cinderella. Russia's <span itsx-lexicalizes="dbr:Yuri_Zhirkov" itsx-entity-type="http://schema.org/Person">Yuri Zhirkov</span> ...</p> > > > It strikes me that we are probably re-inventing the wheel: large parts of the web community are now heading towards RDFa (light) and microdata for named entities, and we are inventing a new syntax. > > So I am wondering whether we shouldn't just describe a best practice to create something like this out of an automatic annotation process: > > <p>After a century of near domination from the likes of <span itemscope='' itemtype="http://schema.org/Place" itemprop="name">Italy</span> and <span itemscope='' itemtype="http://schema.org/Place" itemprop="name">Germany</span>, international soccer is entering the era of the Cinderella. Russia's <span itemscope='' itemtype="http://schema.org/Person" itemprop="name">Yuri Zhirkov</span> ...</p> > > > For this, we then already can expect uptake from search engines, and lot's of tools http://schema.rdfs.org/tools.html > > I still see a use case for a dedicated "named entity" data category, but rather in a localization chain and in XML, in a workflow like this: > > 1) HTML is enriched with the microdata result described above, or its RDFa 1.1. light counterpart. > > 2) We specify dedicated local markup for entities only in XML, e.g. its:entityType > > 3) To "glue" 1) and 2) together, we when have a mapping rule like > > <its:namedEntityRule selector="//*[@itemtype]" entityTypePointer="@itemtype"/> > > No. 1) would also help us with our charter issue, btw. > > This approach would also relate to > > ISSUE-2 microdata mapping, since we won't map for named entities to microdata and RDFa - they would be available as these from the beginning. > ISSUE-18 dropping RDFa, since: we won't drop it, but actually do it, at least RDFa light 1.1. > ISSUE-29 ITS and RDF, since we do > > Thoughts? > > >
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