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Re: Re: [ACTION-160] (related to [ACTION-135] too) Summarize specialRequirements

From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 18:36:38 +0200
Message-ID: <CAL58czriRQcENCS7Fi-ZcG2tT+_WSwtA+Xdt7ohFCaQO4aVvSw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Michael Kruppa <Michael.Kruppa@cocomore.com>
Cc: "ysavourel@enlaso.com" <ysavourel@enlaso.com>, "public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org" <public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org>, "fredrik.estreen@lionbridge.com" <fredrik.estreen@lionbridge.com>
Hi Michael, all,

A question to the XLIFF people in this thread: how do "forbidden
characters" related to XLIFF? I see at
http://docs.oasis-open.org/xliff/v1.2/cs02/xliff-core.html#charclass
that there is a charclass attribute saying
"This indicates that a translation is restricted to a subset of characters
(i.e. ASCII only, Katakana only, uppercase only, etc.). "
What would we do if there is an XLIFF file with charclass allowing some
characters that are forbidden by a "forbidden characters" data category?

Felix

2012/7/9 Michael Kruppa <Michael.Kruppa@cocomore.com>

>  Hi Felix,
>
>  max-size is relevant to us. But we would also like to support the
> forbidden chars since this may be relevant when storing translated content
> and certain characters may also lead to problems when integrating them with
> html and javascript code generated by the CMS.
>
>  So, we hope that we can clarify the forbidden chars topic.
>
>  Best
>
>  Micha
>
>
>
>
> Von Samsung-Tablet gesendet
>
> Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org> hat geschrieben:
>
> Hi Michael,
>
>  just a clarification question: do you mean max-size? So far for the
> other aspects of specialRequirements, we don't have a clear definition, so
> we may end up "just" with max-size.
>
>  Best,
>
>  Felix
>
> 2012/7/9 Michael Kruppa <Michael.Kruppa@cocomore.com>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I would just like to point out that for us, the specialRequirements meta
>> tag appears to be of high relevance with respect to some of the business
>> cases we have in mind for future usage of ITS. Therefore, we would like to
>> declare our strong support for this meta tag and we will be happy to
>> implement it on the CMS side.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Micha
>>
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>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: Yves Savourel [mailto:ysavourel@enlaso.com]
>> Gesendet: Montag, 9. Juli 2012 09:58
>> An: 'Felix Sasaki'
>> Cc: public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org; 'Fredrik Estreen'
>> Betreff: RE: [ACTION-160] (related to [ACTION-135] too) Summarize
>> specialRequirements
>>
>>  Hi Felix, all,
>>
>> > So I think - if I understand you correctly - what you want to achieve
>> > is that tools that make use of metadata that is coming from various
>> > sources (XLIFF, ITS, PO, ..). Currently that metadata is not coming at
>> > all, or only in priority ways. The aim now is to have one agreed
>> > metadata definition for max-size, right?
>> > ...
>> > ...
>> > What worries me then is that we aim to create a single piece of
>> > metadata, which is not part of the big picture. That raises several
>> > questions / requirements:
>>
>> Maybe it'll help to go back at the root of this requirement (as far as I
>> understand it):
>>
>> Sometimes a string to be translated has a limitation on how long it can
>> be. The limitation can be in the storage (fixed length DB field in a CMS
>> for example), or in the display: We are talking about the storage here.
>>
>> What I think ITS needs to provide is the way to pass that information
>> down the consumer tools so the limitation can be verified at some stage
>> (for example: during the translation, or/and at a QA step after).
>>
>> That's the "big picture" for me. I'm not sure what you mean by "special
>> purpose length solution". To me the proposal Giuseppe has for maxStorgeSize
>> is rather general.
>>
>> But maybe I'm missing your point.
>> -yves
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>  --
> Felix Sasaki
> DFKI / W3C Fellow
>
>


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Felix Sasaki
DFKI / W3C Fellow
Received on Monday, 9 July 2012 16:37:04 UTC

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