Re: [LT-Web] Test Suite output

Leroy, I noticed when re-running LQI earlier in the week that default "locQualityIssuedEnabled="yes"" in the output had also disappeared.



On 18 Jan 2013, at 10:32, "Leroy Finn" <finnle@tcd.ie> wrote:

> Also I will give a look at updating the tests also based on Yves comments. I will let everyone know when I have the update done to get feedback.
> 
> Leroy
> 
> 
> On 18 January 2013 10:28, Leroy Finn <finnle@tcd.ie> wrote:
>> I ran the language information tests for HTML and I am getting the incorrect output also. Thanks for catching this Marcis. I will have to correct my parser for language information  and i better double check the XML outputs also. I will post up the correct output by the end of the day. 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Leroy
>> 
>> 
>> On 18 January 2013 09:56, Pablo Nieto Caride <pablo.nieto@linguaserve.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Felix,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Yes I definitely thought about this issue when I was implementing the data category, but then I came to realize that since the value of “Global adding of information” is NO then the rules cannot add the lang attribute to the elements, then the inheritance is another matter, I thought that the reason why it isn’t shown on the output was because the lang is not ITS but a HTML5 attribute. Anyway according to this thread I assume I was wrong and I need to change the implementation, don’t I?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Pablo.
>>> 
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Pablo and Ankit,
>>> 
>>> just FYI & in case you may have missed this thread - you as "language information" implementers may need to change some test files, see below.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Felix
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>>> 
>>> Betreff:
>>> 
>>> RE: [LT-Web] Test Suite output
>>> 
>>> Weitersenden-Datum:
>>> 
>>> Fri, 18 Jan 2013 04:08:33 +0000
>>> 
>>> Weitersenden-Von:
>>> 
>>> public-multilingualweb-lt-tests@w3.org
>>> 
>>> Datum:
>>> 
>>> Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:07:54 -0700
>>> 
>>> Von:
>>> 
>>> Yves Savourel <ysavourel@enlaso.com>
>>> 
>>> An:
>>> 
>>> 'Felix Sasaki' <fsasaki@w3.org>, 'Multilingual Web LT-TESTS Public' <public-multilingualweb-lt-tests@w3.org>
>>> 
>>> Kopie (CC):
>>> 
>>> 'Mārcis Pinnis' <marcis.pinnis@Tilde.lv>, 'Pēteris Ņikiforovs' <peteris.nikiforovs@Tilde.lv>, 'Andis Lagzdiņš' <andis.lagzdins@Tilde.lv>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Mārcis,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I’ve checked our code and we had a bug in our implementation: the handler for the local HTML’s lang was not defined.
>>> 
>>> So I’m now getting the three attached files for HTML.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> There may be still another problem in our code as we still get the same output for html1.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I think that test needs to be redone because the way it is: we don’t know if the result is generated by the local lang or by the global rule.
>>> 
>>> (and the global rules are a bit weird too: the first one serves no purpose)
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I’ll try to find some time to look more into it tomorrow. Hopefully others can double/triple check the output.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> cheers,
>>> 
>>> -yves
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Felix Sasaki [mailto:fsasaki@w3.org] 
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 11:49 AM
>>> To: Multilingual Web LT-TESTS Public
>>> Cc: Mārcis Pinnis; Pēteris Ņikiforovs; Andis Lagzdiņš
>>> Subject: [LT-Web] Test Suite output
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Forwarded on behalf of Mārcis (there is a subscription issue for the tests list) and putting Mārcis and his colleagues in CC. Implementers, please have a look at Mārcis' issue.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Felix
>>> 
>>> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>>> 
>>> Betreff:
>>> 
>>> [Moderator Action] [LT-Web] Test Suite output
>>> 
>>> Datum:
>>> 
>>> Thu, 17 Jan 2013 14:47:39 +0000
>>> 
>>> Von:
>>> 
>>> Mārcis Pinnis <marcis.pinnis@Tilde.lv>
>>> 
>>> An:
>>> 
>>> Multilingual Web LT-TESTS Public LT-TESTS Public <public-multilingualweb-lt-tests@w3.org>
>>> 
>>> Kopie (CC):
>>> 
>>> Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>, Pēteris Ņikiforovs <peteris.nikiforovs@Tilde.lv>, Andis Lagzdiņš <andis.lagzdins@Tilde.lv>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> We (in Tilde) are working through the Test Suite and for Language Information we find the expected results not to represent what is said in http://www.w3.org/TR/its20/#language-information and http://www.w3.org/TR/its20/#datacategories-defaults-etc.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> The first question:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> The input in HTML example 1 is as follows:
>>> 
>>> <!DOCTYPE html>
>>> 
>>> <html lang="en">
>>> 
>>>   <head>
>>> 
>>>    <meta charset=utf-8>
>>> 
>>>    <link href="languageinfo1htmlrules.xml" rel="its-rules"/>
>>> 
>>>    <title>EXAMPLE</title>
>>> 
>>>   </head>
>>> 
>>>   <body>
>>> 
>>>    <p>The motto of Québec is:
>>> 
>>>     <q>Je me souviens</q>
>>> 
>>>   .</p>
>>> 
>>>    <p>La devise du Québec est :
>>> 
>>>     <q lang="fr-CA">Je me souviens</q>
>>> 
>>>   .</p>
>>> 
>>>   </body>
>>> 
>>> </html>
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> The acompanying rules file defines the following:
>>> 
>>> <its:rules xmlns:its="http://www.w3.org/2005/11/its" xmlns:h="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" version="2.0">
>>> 
>>> <its:langRule selector="/h:*" langPointer="@lang"/>
>>> 
>>> <its:langRule selector="//h:*" langPointer="@lang"/>
>>> 
>>> </its:rules>
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> The expected output is:
>>> 
>>> /html  lang="en"
>>> 
>>> /html/@lang   lang="en"
>>> 
>>> /html/head[1]
>>> 
>>> /html/head[1]/meta[1]
>>> 
>>> /html/head[1]/meta[1]/@charset
>>> 
>>> /html/head[1]/link[1]
>>> 
>>> /html/head[1]/link[1]/@href
>>> 
>>> /html/head[1]/link[1]/@rel
>>> 
>>> /html/head[1]/title[1]
>>> 
>>> /html/body[1]
>>> 
>>> /html/body[1]/p[1]
>>> 
>>> /html/body[1]/p[1]/q[1]
>>> 
>>> /html/body[1]/p[2]
>>> 
>>> /html/body[1]/p[2]/q[1]    lang="fr-CA"
>>> 
>>> /html/body[1]/p[2]/q[1]/@lang     lang="fr-CA"
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> However, our parser produces the following (and we tend to believe that this is correct!):
>>> 
>>> /html  lang="en"
>>> 
>>> /html/@lang   lang="en"
>>> 
>>> /html/head[1] lang="en"
>>> 
>>> /html/head[1]/meta[1]      lang="en"
>>> 
>>> /html/head[1]/meta[1]/@charset    lang="en"
>>> 
>>> /html/head[1]/link[1]      lang="en"
>>> 
>>> /html/head[1]/link[1]/@href lang="en"
>>> 
>>> /html/head[1]/link[1]/@rel lang="en"
>>> 
>>> /html/head[1]/title[1]     lang="en"
>>> 
>>> /html/body[1] lang="en"
>>> 
>>> /html/body[1]/p[1]   lang="en"
>>> 
>>> /html/body[1]/p[1]/q[1]    lang="en"
>>> 
>>> /html/body[1]/p[2]   lang="en"
>>> 
>>> /html/body[1]/p[2]/q[1]    lang="fr-CA"
>>> 
>>> /html/body[1]/p[2]/q[1]/@lang     lang="fr-CA"
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I marked the difference in red.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> The language information data category specifies the following inheritance rules:
>>> 
>>> „Textual content of element, including attributes and child elements”
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> This (as I understand it) means that everything within <html> is in English except the second <q> tag.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> This issue is in all three HTML language information examples in the Test Suite.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> A second question:
>>> 
>>> I find confusing the definition and parsing of the other two language information examples.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I understand that language information is added at a global level, however, the ITS 2.0 reference says:
>>> 
>>> Locally users are able to use xml:lang (which is defined by XML), or lang in HTML, or an attribute specific to the format in question (as in Example 51).
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> After reading this sentence I have the understanding that the „lang” attribute is equally important for language information parsing than global rules (regardless of where they point).
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> That being said, is the expected output correct in the second and third examples (the first lang =”en” fragment was ignored in the expected output)?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> Mārcis ;o)
>>> 
> 

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