Re: RE: [LT-Web] Test Suite output

I ran the language information tests for HTML and I am getting the
incorrect output also. Thanks for catching this Marcis. I will have to
correct my parser for language information  and i better double check the
XML outputs also. I will post up the correct output by the end of the day.

Thanks,
Leroy


On 18 January 2013 09:56, Pablo Nieto Caride <pablo.nieto@linguaserve.com>wrote:

> Hi Felix,****
>
> ** **
>
> Yes I definitely thought about this issue when I was implementing the data
> category, but then I came to realize that since the value of “Global
> adding of information” is NO then the rules cannot add the lang attribute
> to the elements, then the inheritance is another matter, I thought that the
> reason why it isn’t shown on the output was because the lang is not ITS but
> a HTML5 attribute. Anyway according to this thread I assume I was wrong and
> I need to change the implementation, don’t I?****
>
> ** **
>
> Cheers,****
>
> Pablo.****
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>** **
>
> Hi Pablo and Ankit,
>
> just FYI & in case you may have missed this thread - you as "language
> information" implementers may need to change some test files, see below.
>
> Best,
>
> Felix****
>
>
>
> -------- Original-Nachricht -------- ****
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> *Betreff: *
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> RE: [LT-Web] Test Suite output****
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> Fri, 18 Jan 2013 04:08:33 +0000****
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> public-multilingualweb-lt-tests@w3.org****
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> Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:07:54 -0700****
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> *Von: *
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> Yves Savourel <ysavourel@enlaso.com> <ysavourel@enlaso.com>****
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> *An: *
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> 'Felix Sasaki' <fsasaki@w3.org> <fsasaki@w3.org>, 'Multilingual Web
> LT-TESTS Public' <public-multilingualweb-lt-tests@w3.org><public-multilingualweb-lt-tests@w3.org>
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> *Kopie (CC): *
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> 'Mārcis Pinnis' <marcis.pinnis@Tilde.lv> <marcis.pinnis@Tilde.lv>,
> 'Pēteris Ņikiforovs' <peteris.nikiforovs@Tilde.lv><peteris.nikiforovs@Tilde.lv>,
> 'Andis Lagzdiņš' <andis.lagzdins@Tilde.lv> <andis.lagzdins@Tilde.lv>****
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> ****
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> Hi Mārcis,****
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>  ****
>
> I’ve checked our code and we had a bug in our implementation: the handler
> for the local HTML’s lang was not defined.****
>
> So I’m now getting the three attached files for HTML.****
>
>  ****
>
> There may be still another problem in our code as we still get the same
> output for html1.****
>
>  ****
>
> I think that test needs to be redone because the way it is: we don’t know
> if the result is generated by the local lang or by the global rule.****
>
> (and the global rules are a bit weird too: the first one serves no purpose)
> ****
>
>  ****
>
> I’ll try to find some time to look more into it tomorrow. Hopefully others
> can double/triple check the output.****
>
>  ****
>
> cheers,****
>
> -yves****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* Felix Sasaki [mailto:fsasaki@w3.org <fsasaki@w3.org>]
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 17, 2013 11:49 AM
> *To:* Multilingual Web LT-TESTS Public
> *Cc:* Mārcis Pinnis; Pēteris Ņikiforovs; Andis Lagzdiņš
> *Subject:* [LT-Web] Test Suite output****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
> Forwarded on behalf of Mārcis (there is a subscription issue for the tests
> list) and putting Mārcis and his colleagues in CC. Implementers, please
> have a look at Mārcis' issue.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Felix
>
> -------- Original-Nachricht -------- ****
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> *Betreff: *****
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> [Moderator Action] [LT-Web] Test Suite output****
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> *Datum: *****
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> Thu, 17 Jan 2013 14:47:39 +0000****
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> *Von: *****
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> Mārcis Pinnis <marcis.pinnis@Tilde.lv> <marcis.pinnis@Tilde.lv>****
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> *An: *****
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> Multilingual Web LT-TESTS Public LT-TESTS Public
> <public-multilingualweb-lt-tests@w3.org><public-multilingualweb-lt-tests@w3.org>
> ****
>
> *Kopie (CC): *****
>
> Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org> <fsasaki@w3.org>, Pēteris Ņikiforovs
> <peteris.nikiforovs@Tilde.lv> <peteris.nikiforovs@Tilde.lv>, Andis
> Lagzdiņš <andis.lagzdins@Tilde.lv> <andis.lagzdins@Tilde.lv>****
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> ****
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> Hi everyone,****
>
>  ****
>
> We (in Tilde) are working through the Test Suite and for Language
> Information we find the expected results not to represent what is said in
> http://www.w3.org/TR/its20/#language-information and
> http://www.w3.org/TR/its20/#datacategories-defaults-etc.****
>
>  ****
>
> The first question:****
>
>  ****
>
> The input in HTML example 1 is as follows:****
>
> <!DOCTYPE html>****
>
> <html lang="en">****
>
>   <head>****
>
>    <meta charset=utf-8>****
>
>    <link href="languageinfo1htmlrules.xml" rel="its-rules"/>****
>
>    <title>EXAMPLE</title>****
>
>   </head>****
>
>   <body>****
>
>    <p>The motto of Québec is:****
>
>     <q>Je me souviens</q>****
>
>   .</p>****
>
>    <p>La devise du Québec est :****
>
>     <q lang="fr-CA">Je me souviens</q>****
>
>   .</p>****
>
>   </body>****
>
> </html>****
>
>  ****
>
> The acompanying rules file defines the following:****
>
> <its:rules xmlns:its="http://www.w3.org/2005/11/its"<http://www.w3.org/2005/11/its>xmlns:h=
> "http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" <http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml>version="2.0">
> ****
>
> <its:langRule selector="/h:*" langPointer="@lang"/>****
>
> <its:langRule selector="//h:*" langPointer="@lang"/>****
>
> </its:rules>****
>
>  ****
>
> The expected output is:****
>
> /html  lang="en"****
>
> /html/@lang   lang="en"****
>
> /html/head[1]****
>
> /html/head[1]/meta[1]****
>
> /html/head[1]/meta[1]/@charset****
>
> /html/head[1]/link[1]****
>
> /html/head[1]/link[1]/@href****
>
> /html/head[1]/link[1]/@rel****
>
> /html/head[1]/title[1]****
>
> /html/body[1]****
>
> /html/body[1]/p[1]****
>
> /html/body[1]/p[1]/q[1]****
>
> /html/body[1]/p[2]****
>
> /html/body[1]/p[2]/q[1]    lang="fr-CA"****
>
> /html/body[1]/p[2]/q[1]/@lang     lang="fr-CA"****
>
>  ****
>
> However, our parser produces the following (and we tend to believe that
> this is correct!):****
>
> /html  lang="en"****
>
> /html/@lang   lang="en"****
>
> /html/head[1] lang="en"****
>
> /html/head[1]/meta[1]      lang="en"****
>
> /html/head[1]/meta[1]/@charset    lang="en"****
>
> /html/head[1]/link[1]      lang="en"****
>
> /html/head[1]/link[1]/@href lang="en"****
>
> /html/head[1]/link[1]/@rel lang="en"****
>
> /html/head[1]/title[1]     lang="en"****
>
> /html/body[1] lang="en"****
>
> /html/body[1]/p[1]   lang="en"****
>
> /html/body[1]/p[1]/q[1]    lang="en"****
>
> /html/body[1]/p[2]   lang="en"****
>
> /html/body[1]/p[2]/q[1]    lang="fr-CA"****
>
> /html/body[1]/p[2]/q[1]/@lang     lang="fr-CA"****
>
>  ****
>
> I marked the difference in red.****
>
>  ****
>
> The language information data category specifies the following inheritance
> rules:****
>
> „Textual content of element, *including* attributes and child elements”***
> *
>
>  ****
>
> This (as I understand it) means that everything within <html> is in
> English except the second <q> tag.****
>
>  ****
>
> This issue is in all three HTML language information examples in the Test
> Suite.****
>
>  ****
>
> A second question:****
>
> I find confusing the definition and parsing of the other two language
> information examples.****
>
>  ****
>
> I understand that language information is added at a global level,
> however, the ITS 2.0 reference says:****
>
> Locally users are able to use xml:lang (which is defined by XML), or langin HTML, or an attribute specific to the format in question (as in Example
> 51 <http://www.w3.org/TR/its20/#EX-lang-definition-1>).****
>
>  ****
>
> After reading this sentence I have the understanding that the „lang”
> attribute is equally important for language information parsing than global
> rules (regardless of where they point).****
>
>  ****
>
> That being said, is the expected output correct in the second and third
> examples (the first lang =”en” fragment was ignored in the expected output)?
> ****
>
>  ****
>
> Best regards,****
>
> Mārcis ;o)****
>
>  ****
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>  ****
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> ** **
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