Re: Test Suit Specs - Pointers and RefPointers

2012/11/7 Yves Savourel <ysavourel@enlaso.com>

> Hi all,
>
> >> That is a good point Felix as we want to see the output as it is
> >> as after all these conformance tests. I haven't made any changes
> >> as of yet so would this mean that the output stays the same apart
> >> from the changes we discussed in Lyon???
> >
> > Yes, that would be my suggestion. Of course we can continue discussing
> > this here, but at the moment I don't see a consensus for changing this,
> > with at least me opposing.
>
> I've read all the emails in this thread and I still have a hard time to
> understand the changes/no-changes that people are talking about. Sorry if
> I'm speaking on something that has been resolved already:
>
> For me:
>
> For references: Either locNote="REF:text" or locNoteRef="text" is fine.
> The bottom line is that the fact that the data is a reference vs the actual
> text is important and should be provided. It is part of the ITS information.
>
> For the pointers: I'm not sure why we need to output that information. If
> the text of the information is right it means it was properly resolved. My
> concern is that 'how' the information was obtain as far as if it was from a
> native ITS attribute or some markup pointed to by a rule is not really
> relevant for processor used in production. Carrying that information in the
> decorated tree is a burden to the application.
>


I understand, but I think this burden is important. We have seen in the
"complete overriding" discussion that carrying such information can be
quite helpful to understand how the technology works - even 5 years after
it has been specified.


>
> So I would be for something like this:
>
> /html/body[1]/section[2]/span[1]           locNote="A division by 0 was
> going to be computed."  locNoteType="description"
>
> Rather than this:
>
> /html/body[1]/section[2]/span[1]           locNoteType="description"
>   locNotePointer="A division by 0 was going to be computed."
>

My preference would be the latter. But I realize that in the ITS 1.0 test
suite we did the former, see
http://www.w3.org/International/its/tests/inputdata/EX-locNotePointer-attribute-1.xml
http://www.w3.org/International/its/tests/expected/EX-locNotePointer-attribute-1-result.xml
In the result the pointer is normalized to
<o:locNoteText>A division by 0 was going to be computed.</o:locNoteText>

So I can't back my position with any data in that sense.

Best,

Felix


>
>
> Cheers,
> -yves
>
>
>


-- 
Felix Sasaki
DFKI / W3C Fellow