Re: Test Suit Specs - Pointers and RefPointers

That is a good point Felix as we want to see the output as it is as after
all these conformance tests. I haven't made any changes as of yet so would
this mean that the output stays the same apart from the changes
we discussed in Lyon???

Thanks,
Leroy

On 7 November 2012 10:43, Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org> wrote:

> Hi Leroy, all,
>
> I disagree with "normalizing" the output of "pointer" or "ref" (standoff)
> attributes. With the nested attribute choices like
>
> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#lqissue-implementation
> keeping the origin of the information is quite important to be able to see
> constraints.
>
> Best,
>
> Felix
>
>
> 2012/11/7 Leroy Finn <finnle@tcd.ie>
>
>> Fredrik,
>>
>> I agree with that this will make thing simpler but we need consensus on
>> this from the group. This will cause some major changes in the update so if
>> people agree I will post results like discussed in your e-mail. Also as i
>> have discussed in a previous email i haven't re-run output in a while and
>> meta has only been added recently to most files so except it to appear in
>> future output. I am in the middle of updating the test suite parser at the
>> moment adding in its:param parsing, removing of its: and adding of
>> alphabetic ordering as discussed in the meeting. I will start working on
>> the pointer output but it would be nice to hear some feedback on it from
>> others in the group as well??????
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Leroy
>>
>>
>> On 7 November 2012 08:55, Pablo Nieto Caride <pablo.nieto@linguaserve.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with Fredrik, the simpler the better.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> I also think that maybe we should coordinate to commit changes to the
>>> files.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> By the way Leroy my github user is pnietoca.****
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>>> *De:* Fredrik Liden [mailto:fliden@enlaso.com]
>>> *Enviado el:* miércoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 8:26
>>> *Para:* Leroy Finn; Multilingual Web LT-TESTS Public
>>> *Asunto:* Test Suit Specs - Pointers and RefPointers****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Hi Leroy,****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> We talked a bit about the test output for pointers last Friday. Sorry
>>> about the delay sending the example to the list.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> The examples from the test suite:****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *locnote2htmloutput.txt*
>>>
>>> /html/body[1]/section[2]/span[1]
>>> locNoteType="description"         *locNotePointer="A division by 0 was
>>> going to be computed."*
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> In the cases of pointers maybe we can just resolve the pointer and show
>>> the value as plain locNote. We don’t care to much that it’s from a pointer,
>>> just that the value is correct.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> /html/body[1]/section[2]/span[1]           *locNote="A division by 0
>>> was going to be computed."*  locNoteType="description"****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *Locnote4htmloutput.txt*
>>>
>>> /html/body[1]/p[1]/span[1]       locNoteType="description"         *locNoteRefPointer=""
>>> title="Comments.html#FileNotFound"*
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *locnote4xmloutput.txt*
>>>
>>> /dataFile/body[1]/string[1]path=/data[1]
>>> locNoteType="description"         *locNoteRefPointer=""
>>> noteFile="Comments.html#FileNotFound"*****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> [Fyi, In the cases of refPointers the html and xml examples shows
>>> different format title vs. noteFile]****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Perhaps we can follow the same logic of the pointers in the example
>>> above and resolve them and not show the title/noteFile so instead something
>>> simpler like:****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> /html/body[1]/p[1]/span[1]       *
>>> locNoteRef="Comments.html#FileNotFound"*
>>> locNoteType="description"****
>>>
>>> and****
>>>
>>> /dataFile/body[1]/string[1]/data[1]        *
>>> locNoteRef="Comments.html#FileNotFound"* locNoteType="description" ****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> or****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> /html/body[1]/p[1]/span[1]       *
>>> locNote="REF:Comments.html#FileNotFound"*
>>> locNoteType="description"****
>>>
>>> and****
>>>
>>> /dataFile/body[1]/string[1]/data[1]        *
>>> locNote="REF:Comments.html#FileNotFound"*
>>> locNoteType="description" ****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> On a side note, does it make sense for implementers to update the
>>> testresult files on GitHub at will or do you prefer us to wait until after
>>> Dec 4th. Just as a random example *\locale1htmloutput.txt *I think it’s
>>> missing the following two lines (unless we’re ignoring meta):****
>>>
>>> * *
>>>
>>> /html/head[1]/meta[1]                ****
>>>
>>> /html/head[1]/meta[1]/@charset****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> I’m asking because I know you’re working on the files so I don’t want to
>>> cause any inconvenience by introducing unexpected changes if you’re in the
>>> middle of something. Perhaps you prefer us to report any findings on a file
>>> per file basis to approve the change first? ****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Thanks,****
>>>
>>> Fredrik****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Felix Sasaki
> DFKI / W3C Fellow
>
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