Re: [ISSUE-91] ITS2 ruby issue i18n-ISSUE-210, i18n-ISSUE-215

Am 09.05.13 11:02, schrieb Dave Lewis:
> Hi Norbert,
> Thanks for getting back to us on that. I'll make sure that wording 
> change goes in. 

Thanks, Dave and Norbert, done.

- Felix

> We'd also spotted the schema reference so that is being fixed now also.
>
> kind regards,
> Dave
>
> On 09/05/2013 04:19, Norbert Lindenberg wrote:
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> This is essentially what I asked for, so I'm satisfied.
>>
>> Two nits though:
>> - "as time of writing" should probably be "at the time of writing".
>> - There's still a reference to ruby in the Schematron schema in 
>> appendix D.
>>
>> Norbert
>>
>>
>> On May 7, 2013, at 17:33 , Dave Lewis wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Norbert,
>>> Thanks you for you input on the Ruby topic. This is to confirm that 
>>> we have now removed the Ruby section from the ITS2.0 editors draft 
>>> and included an appendix H stating:
>>>
>>> "H. Ruby and ITS 2.0 (Non-Normative)
>>>
>>> ITS 1.0 provided the Ruby data category. ITS 2.0 does not provide 
>>> ruby since as time of writing, a stable model for ruby was not 
>>> available. There are ongoing discussions about the ruby model in 
>>> HTML5. Once these discussions are settled, in a subsequent version 
>>> of ITS, the ruby data category may be re-introduced."
>>>
>>> Please inidicate if you are satisfied with the response. If we don't 
>>> hear from you within two week we will take it you are satisfied.
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> On 09/04/2013 18:42, Felix Sasaki wrote:
>>>> Thank you, Norbert. We are planning to publish a "hearth beat" 
>>>> working draft on Thursday. I then would propose that we remove the 
>>>> section as you suggested, but mention that this is something that 
>>>> we want to get feedback about before leaving last call.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Felix
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 09.04.13 18:53, schrieb Norbert Lindenberg:
>>>>> I still think this section should be removed entirely, since it 
>>>>> adds no value to the standard in its current form. It might be 
>>>>> useful to explain in an appendix why it's been removed, and that 
>>>>> it may reappear in a later version.
>>>>>
>>>>> Norbert
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 8, 2013, at 8:52 , Felix Sasaki wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi i18n colleagues,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> this issue
>>>>>> https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/87
>>>>>> "whitespace change in ruby example" is done, see
>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#EX-ruby-implementation-1 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was wondering how to move forward with this issue
>>>>>> https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/91
>>>>>> "parts of the ruby section should be removed"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We had various discussions about this in the i18n WG. From these 
>>>>>> I see two options:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) remove the section completely
>>>>>> 2) keep the section but have it *mostly* (see below) empty, 
>>>>>> saying "the ruby model in HTML5 is in flux. The ruby section may 
>>>>>> be updated in a subsequent version of ITS".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The original comment
>>>>>> https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/91
>>>>>> said that the local part of the ruby section should be removed. 
>>>>>> But with that, all that would be left is this sentence in the 
>>>>>> "definition" section:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The Ruby data category is used for a run of text that is 
>>>>>> associated with another run of text, referred to as the base 
>>>>>> text. Ruby text is used to provide a short annotation of the 
>>>>>> associated base text. It is most often used to provide a reading 
>>>>>> (pronunciation) guide."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We could keep that sentence also as part of resolution aproach 2).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The global ruby section
>>>>>> is like local ruby specific to XHTML, see the names of the 
>>>>>> "pointer" attributes at
>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#ruby-global 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> so it might be rather confusing to keep the global approach. 
>>>>>> Besides, since ITS1, it seems there has been nobody implementing 
>>>>>> ruby globally.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Felix
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

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