MATF Minutes March 26, 2020

*MATF Minutes March 26, 2020

Link:  https://www.w3.org/2020/03/26-mobile-a11y-minutes.html*
*Text:*


  Mobile Accessibility Task Force Teleconference


    26 Mar 2020


    Attendees

Present
    JakeAbma, kim_patch, Kathy, Jennifer
Regrets

Chair
    SV_MEETING_CHAIR
Scribe
    kim_patch


    Contents

  * Topics <https://www.w3.org/2020/03/26-mobile-a11y-minutes.html#agenda>
     1. 2.2 spacing between touch targets comments
        <https://www.w3.org/2020/03/26-mobile-a11y-minutes.html#item01>
  * Summary of Action Items
    <https://www.w3.org/2020/03/26-mobile-a11y-minutes.html#ActionSummary>
  * Summary of Resolutions
    <https://www.w3.org/2020/03/26-mobile-a11y-minutes.html#ResolutionSummary>


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      2.2 spacing between touch targets comments

Kathy: some additional exceptions, which I think is fine

Jake: there's a long list that's missing. And what's added was resizing, 
meaning if those links get bigger it will also be fine.

<JakeAbma> 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sszSUKB8t3VuRzxHtOjLfQZjNYCw-xr_EbuMwW7WiGc/edit

<Kathy> 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sszSUKB8t3VuRzxHtOjLfQZjNYCw-xr_EbuMwW7WiGc/edit#heading=h.ejhdd51oh9l9

<Kathy> Original Exceptions: Inline: The target is in a sentence or 
block of text; Long List of Menu Items: A list of menu items where the 
list cannot fit on the screen without scrolling the page when the target 
size plus spacing between targets is 44 CSS pixels; Essential: A 
particular presentation of the target is essential to the information 
being conveyed.

<Kathy> Proposed Changes: Resize: A mechanism is available to change the 
size of all targets so that the width and height is at least 44 CSS 
pixels; Inline: The target is in a sentence or block of text; Layers: If 
the target is part of additional content (such as a menu drop-down), the 
targets from the lower layer are not in scope for the targets on 
additional content; Essential: A particular presentation of the target 
is essential to the information being con[CUT]

Jake: Wording change issues in theory you can comply with this perfectly 
but still stack them on top of each other in a way or with margins 
almost overlapping each other and then you do not have the distance 
between the targets but they are 44
... just use a negative margin and they'll be closer to other elements
... you can still move them so they overlap

Kathy: so the CSS would be different from what's on the screen

Jake: it would be good to mention or indicate that when you check out an 
interactive touch element the edge of an element is where the next one 
starts so they're not allowed to overlap

Kathy: changing text in the document to reflect this

under task force update

Jake: what is the definition of adjacent – if you have a two pixel 
margin between adjacent items are they considered adjacent or does the 
margin have to be zero, 10, 8?

Kathy: we could indicate margin

<Kathy> SC Text update: Pointer target spacing: For adjacent targets, 
the minimum height and width is 44 CSS pixels each, where the height and 
width include the target size plus spacing between targets, except when:

Kathy: we should probably leave the long list of menu items out – they 
were worried about how it would impact zooming
... we should work on this independently and reconvene next week


    Summary of Action Items


    Summary of Resolutions

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