- From: Chris McMeeking <chris.mcmeeking@deque.com>
- Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 13:58:59 -0400
- To: Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@levelaccess.com>
- Cc: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>, "Patrick H. Lauke" <redux@splintered.co.uk>, Michael Gower <michael.gower@ca.ibm.com>, Detlev Fischer <detlev.fischer@testkreis.de>, "Abma, J.D. (Jake)" <Jake.Abma@ing.com>, "public-mobile-a11y-tf@w3.org" <public-mobile-a11y-tf@w3.org>
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Here's a diagram to help. On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 1:46 PM Chris McMeeking <chris.mcmeeking@deque.com> wrote: > > clients will simply not want an "ugly but functional" experience > > Then this Success Criteria is no different from other Success Criteria > that involve design changes and companies should consider Accessibility > Early on in their development cycles. > > > Chris does this provide gutter space on the right if a portrait app was > turned to Landscape, or does everything reorient including spacing to > fill out the entire width. How easy is it to just keep the portrait view > and throw in the correct black gutter space across dozens of form factors? > > This is not reality. If left alone, what you're going to get is the > content rendering completely across this screen, with simply more scrolling > necessary. > > The "Design Difficulties" come into play when you have content that you > want rendered to the user without scrolling. There is significant research > that shows that users are X% (all stats are made up) more likely to engage > with things already on screen, and that they won't scroll. > > Well coded content, and I'm not gonna lie, I couldn't give a rats patoot > about developers that use absolute, hard coded design layouts. But, well > structured content will render just fine in Portrait and Landscape. > HOWEVER, you end up needing to scroll to more content, because the > Landscape version of that content is going to expand to fill the screen, > and require more scrolling. > > As such, research and design aware companies would do things like render > menus to the side and shrink the main content. Or add FABs or trays for > important features that they want to be available and visible to the user > without scrolling. > > The content won't be "ugly" unless their developers are morons. > > Chris > > > > On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 12:55 PM Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@levelaccess.com> > wrote: > >> Many apps have tab bar buttons at bottom To keep these always in view >> you would need to switch to vertical placement. This wouldn't be required >> for current SC but would be ideal. >> >> Jon >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 1, 2019, at 10:22 AM, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca> >> wrote: >> >> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not >> click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know >> the content is safe. >> >> Michale G says: >> >> > Worse case scenario to meet the SC is the app will not change >> dimensions at all and you just get the same layout with a lot of >> gutter/whitespace in the other orientation. >> >> My guess is that Chris's solution doesn't do that. >> >> "unlock the configuration, attach a ScrollView to your main content, and >> let your view readjust to the viewport change." >> >> Chris does this provide gutter space on the right if a portrait app was >> turned to Landscape, or does everything reorient including spacing to >> fill out the entire width. How easy is it to just keep the portrait view >> and throw in the correct black gutter space across dozens of form >> factors? >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> David MacDonald >> >> >> >> *Can**Adapt* *Solutions Inc.* >> >> Tel: 613-806-9005 >> >> LinkedIn >> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmacdonald100> >> >> twitter.com/davidmacd >> >> GitHub <https://github.com/DavidMacDonald> >> >> www.Can-Adapt.com <http://www.can-adapt.com/> >> >> >> >> * Adapting the web to all users* >> * Including those with disabilities* >> >> If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy >> <http://www.davidmacd.com/disclaimer.html> >> >> >> On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 9:57 AM Patrick H. Lauke <redux@splintered.co.uk> >> wrote: >> >>> On 01/05/2019 14:51, Michael Gower wrote: >>> > But an 'ugly but functional' design in the alternate orientation is a >>> > whole lot better >>> >>> I'll echo DMcD here though and say that most brand-aware/corporate >>> clients will simply not want an "ugly but functional" experience >>> (particularly one that can be triggered so easily by end users) unless >>> absolutely forced to (which, until the introduction of this SC, they had >>> no normative incentive to do). >>> >>> P >>> -- >>> Patrick H. Lauke >>> >>> www.splintered.co.uk | https://github.com/patrickhlauke >>> http://flickr.com/photos/redux/ | http://redux.deviantart.com >>> twitter: @patrick_h_lauke | skype: patrick_h_lauke >>> >>>
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