Re: Touch with Assistive Technology

Ah    very good point

That does bend the mind then.      “our site conforms as long as you don’t make the viewport too small”   

which is probably true for all sites.   But what is too small.       

interesting…. 

g


Gregg C Vanderheiden
greggvan@umd.edu



> On Apr 24, 2017, at 4:09 AM, Patrick H. Lauke <redux@splintered.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> On 24/04/2017 02:15, Gregg C Vanderheiden wrote:
> 
>>> In 2008 mobile sites were often separate and had links to desktop
>>> sites.  That is no longer the case.
>> 
>> If there is ONLY a mobile version — then it would be the only version
>> and would have to conform - no?
> [...]
> > I think maybe the company can make a claim on the desktop version - and
> > not on the mobile version.   It is then up to regulators to decide if
> > both need to be accessible.  I don’t think a desktop should be deemed
> > inaccessible if there is also a mobile that is not.
> 
> To add some complexity to this discussion, I'd also add that nowadays, there's often no hard "version" differentiation. There's a single site/page, which - depending on various factors such as the size of the user's browser/viewport, whether the viewport is portrait or landscape ratio, the presence of certain APIs, and assumptions made by developers such as "if it's small screen, then it's likely a touch-only mobile" etc - is presented / functions in potentially completely different ways.
> 
> And yes, I *will* once again reiterate that of course we can use the shorthand of "mobile version", but all that really means for responsive sites is "small-screen version", as mobile versions can and will trigger on "desktop" if the browser window is small enough or zoomed-in enough.
> 
> So while the company/developers may say "this is our desktop version and this is our mobile version", the reality is that there's a fluid continuum here where the "mobile" version will also come into effect on desktop under certain not uncommon conditions, and vice-versa on large-enough tablet/phablet type devices the "desktop" version will be shown instead. Which is why - unless a site really does use something like a user agent sniffing strategy to then show different actual versions of a page depending on its best guess about what device/browser/OS the user has - it'd be difficult to make any hard distinction between "our desktop version is accessible, but our mobile version isn't".
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