Re: WCAG Agenda May 24, 2016

Speaking of which - though probably jumping the gun here - my quickfire 
thoughts on your points:

2.5.1:

"iOS and Android both have a the concept of pass-through gestures. We 
need to either explicitly allow this or disallow it as a way of meeting 
these guidelines."

pass-through gestures are, to me, the equivalent of "mouse keys" ... a 
last resort, rather than an acceptable equivalent mechanism. So I'd lean 
towards explicitly disallowing these.

"Until HTML apps gain this ability there is really no way to meet this 
requirement in complex applications without using pass-through gestures."

Yes, by offering equivalent mechanisms to trigger the same actions (i.e. 
the gestures are shortcuts, but traditional focusable and actionable 
controls are also present - either all the time, or as an optional 
setting). Basically, the same requirement as for keyboard access.

2.5.4

"If I have pinch(or double tap) zoom enabled then I should be able to 
meet this at any zoom level."

Once you zoom out, you can't really maintain the same touch target size 
without the danger of overlapping targets. Also - speaking purely from a 
web content perspective - as an author there's no way to detect zoom 
level and to change padding or whatever on the fly, unless I'm missing 
something.

And, as with the "large scale (text)" discussion...the sizing needed to 
somehow be anchored on the ideal viewport / CSS reference pixel / 
assumption that a device/OS/UA will choose appropriate physical sizing 
for the reference pixel.

"Requiring a 44px line spacing (which this would require) for any text 
which might include links constrains the application design too much."

Interestingly, the case of inline links didn't occur to me until 
recently. the requirement doesn't necessarily mean line spacing has to 
be potentially 44px - provided that links / controls aren't vertically 
stacked (e.g. two links on two separate lines, one above the other), 
then it should be fine to have static text/content above/below an inline 
link, as long as the inline link has appropriate top/bottom padding 
(which will effectively be over the text/content above/below it).


On 23/05/2016 23:21, Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
> It seems the results are recorded correctly, just not displayed in the
> normal view. They do appear in
> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/66524/2016-0509/results?view=compact
> though (in a not very user friendly manner though)
>
> P
>
> On 23/05/2016 22:02, James Nurthen wrote:
>> The mobile survey is borked. I recommend no one spends the time
>> answering it until the chairs reply to say it is fixed.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> James
>>
>>
>> On 5/23/2016 1:03 PM, Andrew Kirkpatrick wrote:
>>>
>>> The WCAG WG will be meeting on Tuesday, 24 May 2016 at 11AM Eastern
>>> US (Length: up to 90 minutes)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Attendance
>>> survey:
>>> <https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/WhenWCAG>https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/WhenWCAG
>>>
>>>
>>> Scribe
>>> list:
>>> <https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Scribe_List>https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Scribe_List
>>>
>>>
>>> IRC: irc.w3.org<<http://irc.w3.org>http://irc.w3.org>  port: 6665
>>> channel #wai-wcag
>>>
>>> Agenda:
>>>
>>>  1. TPAC Registration (https://www.w3.org/2016/09/TPAC/
>>>     <http://www.w3.org/2016/05/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item02>)
>>>  2. Mobile TF
>>>     survey: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/66524/2016-0509/ - please
>>>     find some time to provide feedback
>>>  3. https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/17thMay2016/ (Question 1 only)
>>>  4. Requirements for WCAG.next Success Criteria discussion (see
>>>     Extension Requirements as starting point:
>>>
>>> https://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag/extensions/wcag20/extensions/requirements.html)
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> AWK
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Andrew Kirkpatrick
>>>
>>> Group Product Manager, Accessibility
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards, James
>>
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