- From: Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com>
- Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 11:36:28 +0000
- To: Shawn Henry <shawn@w3.org>, MATF <public-mobile-a11y-tf@w3.org>, wai-eo-editors <wai-eo-editors@w3.org>
- CC: Kevin White <kevin@w3.org>
> I think that is an issue here -- that is, if we keep that guidance, we might need to clarify that it's not a requirement. Shawn, I assume the idea is that this would be WCAG advisory/best practice technique bout could be a potential WCAG Mobile Extension success criteria/requirement. We need to categories the techniques are compiling based on survey results from the TF. We started this process last year but did know an extension was possible at that time. >> Here is the example from EO --the "Getting Started Tips", specifically on "Ensure interactive elements are easy to identify": -http://w3c.github.io/wai-quick-start/designing.html#ensure-interactive-elements-are-easy-to-identify After looking again at the link Jeanne sent -- it would appear that this particular item is a separate best practice/advisory item that we had also noted by the group. Discoverability -- that is does the item appear to be interactive. That to me is a separate but related concept of "does it look like something I can touch or click, etc." Jonathan -- Jonathan Avila Chief Accessibility Officer SSB BART Group jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com 703-637-8957 (o) Follow us: Facebook | Twitter | LinkedIn | Blog | Newsletter -----Original Message----- From: Shawn Henry [mailto:shawn@w3.org] Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 12:41 AM To: MATF; wai-eo-editors Cc: Kevin White Subject: Re: Question on Active state styling for links In several of the recent EOWG resources (such as Easy Checks and Tutorials) we have been including "best practices" *and clarifying* that they are not WCAG requirements. I think that is an issue here -- that is, if we keep that guidance, we might need to clarify that it's not a requirement. Best, ~Shawn On 7/8/2015 9:30 AM, Kim Patch wrote: > I strongly agree with Jonathan. Feedback from electronic controls is critical, and has a long history (subtle audio signal clicks on telephone lines that many folks assume are part of the process of connecting to a call). Users need to distinguish between something going wrong (locked up phone, slow phone, connection blip, bad connection, website just went down) and it going as expected. I think feedback is not only critical but often missing and needs attention. This is an accessibility issue because lack of feedback increases cognitive effort and can increase steps. > > Cheers, > Kim > > On 7/8/2015 9:59 AM, Jonathan Avila wrote: >>> Is there a particular value in providing alternative styling for :active links in the mobile environment? That is, when the link is touched or clicked that there is a visible change in appearance. >> My opinion (and this is based on the BBC mobile standards and guidelines project) is that the user would benefit from feedback to know something happened when an interaction has occurred. For example, if I tap and add button but it's not obvious that something was added to my cart a noticeable visual indicator would be very helpful. This could be done by the add button changing in a way to show that it was activated or it could be some other visual item nearby changing or moving, etc. >> >> Jonathan >> >> -- >> Jonathan Avila >> Chief Accessibility Officer >> SSB BART Group >> jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com >> Phone 703.637.8957 >> Follow us: Facebook | Twitter | LinkedIn | Blog | Newsletter >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jeanne Spellman [mailto:jeanne@w3.org] >> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 9:52 AM >> To: MATF >> Cc: Michael Cooper; Kevin White; wai-eo-editors >> Subject: Question on Active state styling for links >> >> I received a question that originated with the EO working group where they would like an opinion from the Mobile Accessibility Task Force. >> >> Is there a particular value in providing alternative styling for :active links in the mobile environment? That is, when the link is touched or clicked that there is a visible change in appearance. >> >> An informal opinion from the WCAG WG is that WCAG doesn't address the need for alternative styling -- outside of issues of how it is styled, e.g. for color and contrast. Is there a particular value from the mobile perspective that merits creating a technique for this? >> >> Here is the example from EO --the "Getting Started Tips", specifically on "Ensure interactive elements are easy to identify": -http://w3c.github.io/wai-quick-start/designing.html#ensure-interactive-elements-are-easy-to-identify >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> jeanne >> >> > > -- > ___________________________________________________ > > Kimberly Patch > President > Redstart Systems, Inc. > (617) 325-3966 > kim@redstartsystems.com > > www.redstartsystems.com <http://www.redstartsystems.com> > - making speech fly > > Blog: Patch on Speech > +Kim Patch > Twitter: RedstartSystems > www.linkedin.com/in/kimpatch <http://www.linkedin.com/in/kimpatch> > ___________________________________________________
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