MATF Minutes 18 December 2014

MATF Minutes 8 January 2015 link: 
http://www.w3.org/2015/01/08-mobile-a11y-minutes.html


Text of minutes:1 <http://www.w3.org/>


  Mobile Accessibility Task Force Teleconference


    08 Jan 2015

Agenda 
<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mobile-a11y-tf/2015Jan/0001.html>

See also: IRC log <http://www.w3.org/2015/01/08-mobile-a11y-irc>


    Attendees

Present
    Kathy_Wahlbin, Kim_Patch, Jeanne, TomB, Jan, Marc_Johlic, Jon_avila,
    AWK, Michael_Cooper
Regrets
Chair
    Kathleen_Wahlbin
Scribe
    Kathy


    Contents

  * Topics <http://www.w3.org/2015/01/08-mobile-a11y-minutes.html#agenda>
     1. Mockup of Appendix A
        <http://www.w3.org/2015/01/08-mobile-a11y-minutes.html#item01>
     2. Status of the Note
        <http://www.w3.org/2015/01/08-mobile-a11y-minutes.html#item02>
  * Summary of Action Items
    <http://www.w3.org/2015/01/08-mobile-a11y-minutes.html#ActionSummary>

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<trackbot> Date: 08 January 2015

<jeanne> +1 at CSUN

<Jan> +1 to that day

<Kim> Kathy: Tuesday, March 3 possible joint meeting with WCAG at CSUN

<Kim> I'll put out a survey with that question. We are also looking at 
people attending remotely..


      Mockup of Appendix A

<Kim> Kathy: make sure that we align with WCAG so we have consistency 
within documentation

https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/WCAG_2.0_Techniques_Applicable_to_Mobile_without_Changes

<scribe> Scribe: Kathy

http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/WD-Mobile-A11y-NOTE-20141219/AppendixA.html

Kim - the first link is the work we did previously

Kim - the second URL is the appendix A that lists the WCAG 2.0 
Techniques that Apply to Mobile

Jeanne - this was a manual process of putting this together

Jeanne - we envision on having collapsible text

http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/quickref/

<Kim> Kathy: so the idea is to have a list that applies to mobile.

<Kim> Kathy: the doesn't seem to be any exceptions that have come across 
so far -- the general techniques apply to both native and web, the HTML, 
scripting and aria all apply to mobile web and don't really apply to the 
native apps because they are very specific techniques to HTML

<Kim> Kathy: and so with that we don't necessarily need to call out 
native and web specifically, we could do a general statement, and if 
there are exceptions we could list those out

<Kim> Kathy: also listing out failures just they are in WCAG -- looking 
at this so we can align so it's closer to the structure of WCAG

<Jan> 
https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/WCAG_2.0_Techniques_Applicable_to_Mobile_without_Changes

<Kim> Kathy: ideas about this? How can we present the so it's clearer?

<Kim> Jan: looking at what's actionable, when it doesn't say native apps...

<Kim> Kathy: I went through n detail this week and I didn't see any that 
wouldn't apply to native apps

<Kim> Jan: depends on what you've built your HTML with

<Kim> Kathy: that would be a hybrid app, so we could call that out 
specifically. Instead of applies to native and web it applies to 
programming in iOS Android framework versus HTML CSS aria are for HTML 
development

<Kim> Kathy: you are right Jan it's more complicated because we have 
hybrid apps

<Kim> Jan: filter native, hybrid

<Kim> Kathy: right now we don't, so this appendix is designed to give 
someone a snapshot of what is applicable to mobile

<Kim> Jan: great if someone wants to see the whole thing, but maybe at 
the top quick list, what doesn't apply. That's what's interesting

<Kim> Jeanne: we should automate this

<Kim> Jeanne: room is available, need to firm up quickly

<Kim> Andrew: WCAG hasn't come to clear conclusion about whether we will 
meet or not. Either its shared or mobile.

<Kim> Andrew: Tuesdays the day we would be meeting.

<Kim> Jeanne: so two rooms and we can be flexible

<Kim> Kathy: still need to poll the group to see who's going to be there

<Kim> Kathy: we can sort out the details but it would be good to 
schedule something and we will work out what to do as far as cooperation 
with WCAG and meeting time. If people can plan if you are going to CSUN 
to be there on Tuesday.

<Kim> Jeanne: room is tentative

<Kim> Kathy: we will plan on it and work something out

<Kim> Kathy: any other thoughts on appendix a. I'm working toward making 
the changes to the structure of it so now's the time to voice any 
concerns or suggestions

<Kim> Kathy: Andrew, is this something the WCAG working group would like 
to look at after we have put together -- this is separate from the note 
right now

<Kim> Andrew: Yes


      Status of the Note

<Kim> Kathy: questions, when will sections be ready? Over the next few 
weeks we will be reviewing sections and getting those finalized

<Kim> Jan: I feel like I've wrapped up my sections and I took my name 
off them so anyone can go in and edit as well. If there are other 
sections you'd like me to work on shoot them over

<Kim> Kathy: we will review Jan's sections next week, and I should have 
mine done as well

<jon_avila> I put in my bit on contrast.

<Kim> Kathy: Marc, if there's any sections that you feel you'd like to 
contribute on or any comments that you have on this document we love to 
get your input

<Kim> Jon: email on contrast

<Kim> Kathy: did you add in the stuff from Greg

<Kim> 
https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/Note:_WCAG_2.0_and_Mobile

<Kim> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/Main_Page

<Kim> Kathy: what I will do for next week is detail the sections, put 
out a survey so we can review the sections. If you have time please work 
on writing for the assigned sections. If you have time and can work on 
other sections or have comments feel free to put those into the document.

<Kim> Kathy: we can use the time left today to work on the note, and 
then next time will be going over those sections that are marked done

<Kim> Kathy: any other questions about what we are trying to accomplish 
or time frames

<Kim> Kathy: please take time to read through the note, send your 
comments either in an email to the group or put them in the document. We 
would like to have conversations going off-line as well so we can 
continue moving this forward.

<Kim> Andrew: to get Jan's attention because he did the keyboard section 
-- I put a note, talking to Randy Marston about keyboard access later today.

<Kim> Jan: we can express the keyboard access is very important

<Kim> Andrew: I will also suggest that if he knows someone from Apple 
who can be involved with the task force that would be useful


    Summary of Action Items

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