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- Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 12:18:58 -0400
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Text of MATF minutes 23 April, 2015 :
*Mobile Accessibility Task Force Teleconference*
23 Apr 2015
Agenda
<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mobile-a11y-tf/2015Apr/0017.html>
See also: IRC log <http://www.w3.org/2015/04/23-mobile-a11y-irc>
Attendees
Present
Kim_Patch, Jeanne, Alan_Smith, Guillaume, David_MacDonald, Henny,
Jan, Kenny, Mike_Pluke, AWK
Regrets
marc_Johlic, mike_shebanek
Chair
Kimberly_Patch
Scribe
David
*Contents*
* Topics <http://www.w3.org/2015/04/23-mobile-a11y-minutes.html#agenda>
1. Mobile checker – Jeanne
<http://www.w3.org/2015/04/23-mobile-a11y-minutes.html#item01>
2. Comments on 3.1 keyboard control
https://github.com/w3c/Mobile-A11y-TF-Note/issues/4
<http://www.w3.org/2015/04/23-mobile-a11y-minutes.html#item02>
3. Best Practices assignments
<http://www.w3.org/2015/04/23-mobile-a11y-minutes.html#item03>
* Summary of Action Items
<http://www.w3.org/2015/04/23-mobile-a11y-minutes.html#ActionSummary>
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<trackbot> Date: 23 April 2015
<scribe> scribe: David
Mobile checker – Jeanne
Mobile a11y in alpha
Guillaume
Not an a11y checker yet...
<guillaume> https://validator.w3.org/mobile-alpha/
Checker checks if a site is mobile ready
<guillaume> https://validator.w3.org/mobile-alpha/
<guillaume> https://github.com/w3c/Mobile-Checker
The Mobile Checker was built to provide all of us web developers with a
new and helpful experience of mobile Web developement. We built the
base. Now join us, and make it grant your wishes. We hope you will make
it awesome.
want to include a11y mobile tests
https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/mobile-friendly/
David: What is the difference btween this and Google
The goal is the same, but we want to include a11y tests
We are simulating the mobile web app on Chrome, and we can extend to
other browsers
Alan: wondering if the tests I sent were useful
Guillaume: I haven't added it yet but find it interesting
<guillaume> https://github.com/w3c/Mobile-Checker/tree/master/lib/checks
Henny: What tests do you have that we can look at?
Guillaume: The tests are in the link above
<guillaume>
https://github.com/w3c/Mobile-Checker/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md
Guillaume: I want to make it easier to use, have to work with it...
David: All the regular checks found in AMP, Tenon, AMP, etc...
Jan: What about issues rasied by the checks themselves. ie. Sometimes,
having all images on same page... making sure existing checks are not
counter to a11y
Guillaume: we are not going to do a right/wrong model, but rather notify
the user of concerns certain approaches raise...
Jean: Thanks for coming Guillaume and we'll be talking more about it...
Guillaume: open an issue, pull requests etc... appreciate collaboration
Comments on 3.1 keyboard control
https://github.com/w3c/Mobile-A11y-TF-Note/issues/4
to wonder about "Mobile Touchscreen devices and apps should be operable
using a physical keyboard or alternative external input device and
provide or support alternative on-screen keyboard layouts."
Mobile Touchscreen devices and apps should be operable using a physical
keyboard which can be emulated by alternative external input device and
provide or support alternative on-screen keyboard layouts.
David: I added to the github
<Kim> "Mobile Touchscreen devices and apps should be operable using a
physical keyboard which can also be an emulated by alternative external
input device and provide or support alternative on-screen keyboard layouts."
<Kim> "Mobile Touchscreen devices and apps should be operable using a
physical keyboard that can also be emulated by alternative external
input devices and that can provide or support alternative on-screen
keyboard layouts."
<Jan> However, keyboard accessibility remains as important as ever. WCAG
2.0 requires keyboard control at Level A and keyboard control is
supported by most major mobile operating systems via keyboard
interfaces, which allow mobile devices to be operated using external
physical keyboards (e.g. keyboards connected via Bluetooth, USB
On-The-Go) or alternative on-screen keyboards (e.g. scanning...
<Jan> ...on-screen keyboards).
Jan: let's not put in this level... let's put it in the techniques
David: agree, I think he was wanting us to call out specifically, to
ensure tabindex="0" to non actionable elements
<jeanne> Is this Mike's original text?
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mobile-a11y-tf/2015Mar/0021.html
kim: table it for later so Jan can read
Best Practices assignments
<Kim> http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/work/wiki/Main_Page
<jeanne> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/Main_Page
<jeanne> s/ http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/work/wiki/Main_Page//
kim: Starting on Perceivable techniques
<jeanne>
http://w3c.github.io/Mobile-A11y-TF-Note/#mobile-accessibility-considerations-primarily-related-to-principle-1-perceivable
<jeanne>
https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/Technique_Development_Assignments#Mobile
Jan: Non linear screen layouts... does this spawn any new techniques
David: Tables may go off the side... techniques to fix that?
Jan: you've chosen to make things complicated, and convoluted is there
antechnique... and if you bring a lot of other things from the sides but
not from the top down
... should we have sufficient techniques that address that?
David: There is nothing in WCAG techniqies to address that
Jan: Managing accessibility for non linear screen layouts
Jeanne: Microsoft is going to go beyond the dom to address these types
of issues
Summary of Action Items
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