- From: Jeanne Spellman <jeanne@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 11:06:37 -0500
- To: "public-mobile-a11y-tf@w3.org" <public-mobile-a11y-tf@w3.org>
HTML version of minutes: http://www.w3.org/2014/02/07-mobile-a11y-minutes.html Text of minutes following: [1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ - DRAFT - Mobile Accessibility Task Force Teleconference 07 Feb 2014 See also: [2]IRC log [2] http://www.w3.org/2014/02/07-mobile-a11y-irc Attendees Present Kim_Patch, Kathy_Wahlbin, Alan_Smith, Jeanne, DavidTodd, Kathleen, Detlev, alistair, wuwei, Jan Regrets Gavin Chair Kathy Scribe Detlev Contents * [3]Topics 1. [4]Personas Survey Questions 2. [5]Mobile Accessibility Techniques Status 3. [6]Mobile Resources * [7]Summary of Action Items __________________________________________________________ <trackbot> Date: 07 February 2014 <Alan_> Kathy did you get my email that I cannot scribe today? Gmail must have been down. I can scribe <Kathy> scribe: Detlev Personas Survey Questions Kathy: currently aligning mobile a11y TF aligning with other groups ... Next Tues get together with WCAG WG group to co-ordinate work on techniques <Kathy> [8]https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/Draft_User_Sur vey_Questions [8] https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/Draft_User_Survey_Questions Kathy: Alan & Gavin looking at questions to be entered into survey for use of mobile ... Suggests reading through draft survey to then decide where we want to go Kathleen: Include Q about the kind of devices people had tried using? Kathy: Purpose is to collect information on actual use of devices by users with disabilities, what combination ... Create personas from that information Sorry I missed this... Kathy: Survey still very much a draft David: contact info should be included upfront (optional) <jeanne> q* to add country to demographics Kim: Maybe have an open-ended Q at the end (anything else you want to say?) <jeanne> I think you get the best info from the open-ended. Ki: How do people feel about that? David: Good idea Alan: agrees Kim: Hardware a big problem for ppl using speech recognition - should have Q on hardware specs Alistair: Q Does the device have buttons 2. Do you prefer using buttons over touchscreen? Jeanne: Country of origin should be included to be able to look fpr geographic differences Kathy: What should be the best length of the survey? Suggestions? Could get too legthy.. Kathleen: At the beginning Survey should tell users how long it takes to fill out, approx. ... Are we usein gW3C surve ymechanism? Kathy: Not decided yet. Has advantages and disadvantages Kathleen: Would be good to be able to suspend and resume survey later (next day) ... Could be tyring to do it all at once Alistair: Should be working on mobile phone (??) Kathy: Survey should be turned into final draft with survey (for feedback) ... (will edit for next meeting) ... We need to recruit people to actually respond to survey. Any suggestions how to get people to respond? Jeanne: Get in touch with Simon Harper (more EU based) to get contacts to distribute Alan: Any a11y-specific grouls that may be contacted? <jeanne> Andrew Arch can get contacts in Australia <jeanne> I have a contact with Hong Kong Union for the Blind Kathy: Look at grouos worldwide to see who can distribute that I can use our network to distribute via INCOBS and Hoerkomm projects in germany Kathleen: Use Twitter with a11y hashtag Alan: Also has contacts to groups online to distribute Alistair: is it needed in muliple languages? Use W3C country offices .. ... Language can be a barrier <DavidTodd> [9]https://www.facebook.com/GAGDF [9] https://www.facebook.com/GAGDF David: Facebook can be used to make survey better known about Kathy: May be more difficult to recruit people in countires outside Nortth America ... will create a recruiting list in Wiki for groups that can be used to post the survey to worldwide ... Using multiple languages would recommend a tool that allows multi-language surveys Mobile Accessibility Techniques Status <Kathy> [10]https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/66524/20140118_survey/result s [10] https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/66524/20140118_survey/results Kathy: W3C Survey to gwet allocated to WCAG Techniques to go through them and check whether they need mods <Kathy> [11]https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/Draft_WCAG_Te chniques [11] https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/Draft_WCAG_Techniques Kathy: ANy questons? ... jsut note whether changes are needed or not ... Later work on it in a wiki Detlev: Question about change needed for G61 Kathy: Yes, include if you thionk there *might* be need for change Kim: Valuable part is thought about why a change may be needed (or not) Alistair: Also look at W3Cs Best Practices for mobile to ensure there is no conflict ... Recomms may be in conflict with MBP Kim: Jan said BBC has techniques beyond W3C but ordered differently - Jan will map BBC techniques to WCAG Success Criteria Jan; Anyone contacted Henny? kathy: Yes Jan: Mapping has been done - question is how to display it - 80% overlap - the most valuable part is specific twchniques for iOS, Android etc Alistair: Mobile Best Practices currently out of date - wil they be updated? Kathy There is a group that is working on MBP - we should coordinate with them Kathy: Q to Jeanne how to get in touch with group working on MBP <jeanne> ACTION: jeanne to talk with the W3C group that is updating the Mobile Best Practices [recorded in [12]http://www.w3.org/2014/02/07-mobile-a11y-minutes.html#actio n01] <trackbot> Created ACTION-12 - Talk with the w3c group that is updating the mobile best practices [on Jeanne F Spellman - due 2014-02-14]. Kathy: Any questions about wor on Techniques? David: Should we send findings to group? <Kathy> [13]https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/General_Techn iques [13] https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/General_Techniques Kathy: All to be posted on the Wiki - there are specific instructions for editing linked from the survey ... Kim and Jeanne have gone through some already to get a cue on how to do editing work <Kathy> [14]https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/Mobile_Resour ces [14] https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/Mobile_Resources Mobile Resources Kathy: Mobile resources - good list already with dates where possible Kim: 8 pages from Andfrew still missing [15]http://eightmedia.github.io/hammer.js/ [15] http://eightmedia.github.io/hammer.js/ [16]http://unobfuscated.blogspot.de/2013/11/accessible-javascri pt-gestures.html [16] http://unobfuscated.blogspot.de/2013/11/accessible-javascript-gestures.html Detlev: No section on scripting specific stuff like hammer.js etc (links above) kathy: Just added JavaScript Kim: Feel free to add category, if unsure, add it under misc wILL DO Kathleen: Request to Microsoft still unanswered... <Kathy> [17]https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/Third-Party_D evelopment_Tool_Platforms [17] https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/Third-Party_Development_Tool_Platforms Kathleen: Stuff on 3rd party add-ons? ... Apps on phone, like CodeFactory <Kathy> [18]https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/List_of_mobil e_assistive_technologies,_and_the_capabilities_and_limitations [18] https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/List_of_mobile_assistive_technologies Kathy: we can create a separate section (see link above) ... Any further thoughs on resources that are still missing? Jeanne: Organisation and hierarchy: should be tagged so it's easier to search Anyone willing to look into tagging.. Kathy: Tag things - come up with a common set of tags Jeanne: Hard part is to decide how to tag, not the technique Kathy: first define tag list Kim: Lets put up a Wiki page for tags <jeanne> tags should include devices, operating systems, assistive technology and disabilities. <jeanne> ... everything in our hierarchy should probably be a tag Try to get Heinz Mehrlich to contribute resouces for LV users <Zakim> jeanne, you wanted to discuss tagging Kathy: We continue to work on WCAG Techniques, finalise user survey, still think about additions to Wiki (resources) Can someone push the minutes? <Kathy> yes <Kathy> thanks Jeanne thanks! <Kathy> Regrets Gavin Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: jeanne to talk with the W3C group that is updating the Mobile Best Practices [recorded in [19]http://www.w3.org/2014/02/07-mobile-a11y-minutes.html#actio n01] [End of minutes]
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