- From: Jeanne Spellman <jeanne@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 11:06:37 -0500
- To: "public-mobile-a11y-tf@w3.org" <public-mobile-a11y-tf@w3.org>
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
- DRAFT -
Mobile Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
07 Feb 2014
See also: [2]IRC log
[2] http://www.w3.org/2014/02/07-mobile-a11y-irc
Attendees
Present
Kim_Patch, Kathy_Wahlbin, Alan_Smith, Jeanne, DavidTodd,
Kathleen, Detlev, alistair, wuwei, Jan
Regrets
Gavin
Chair
Kathy
Scribe
Detlev
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]Personas Survey Questions
2. [5]Mobile Accessibility Techniques Status
3. [6]Mobile Resources
* [7]Summary of Action Items
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<trackbot> Date: 07 February 2014
<Alan_> Kathy did you get my email that I cannot scribe today?
Gmail must have been down.
I can scribe
<Kathy> scribe: Detlev
Personas Survey Questions
Kathy: currently aligning mobile a11y TF aligning with other
groups
... Next Tues get together with WCAG WG group to co-ordinate
work on techniques
<Kathy>
[8]https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/Draft_User_Sur
vey_Questions
[8]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/Draft_User_Survey_Questions
Kathy: Alan & Gavin looking at questions to be entered into
survey for use of mobile
... Suggests reading through draft survey to then decide where
we want to go
Kathleen: Include Q about the kind of devices people had tried
using?
Kathy: Purpose is to collect information on actual use of
devices by users with disabilities, what combination
... Create personas from that information
Sorry I missed this...
Kathy: Survey still very much a draft
David: contact info should be included upfront (optional)
<jeanne> q* to add country to demographics
Kim: Maybe have an open-ended Q at the end (anything else you
want to say?)
<jeanne> I think you get the best info from the open-ended.
Ki: How do people feel about that?
David: Good idea
Alan: agrees
Kim: Hardware a big problem for ppl using speech recognition -
should have Q on hardware specs
Alistair: Q Does the device have buttons 2. Do you prefer using
buttons over touchscreen?
Jeanne: Country of origin should be included to be able to look
fpr geographic differences
Kathy: What should be the best length of the survey?
Suggestions? Could get too legthy..
Kathleen: At the beginning Survey should tell users how long it
takes to fill out, approx.
... Are we usein gW3C surve ymechanism?
Kathy: Not decided yet. Has advantages and disadvantages
Kathleen: Would be good to be able to suspend and resume survey
later (next day)
... Could be tyring to do it all at once
Alistair: Should be working on mobile phone (??)
Kathy: Survey should be turned into final draft with survey
(for feedback)
... (will edit for next meeting)
... We need to recruit people to actually respond to survey.
Any suggestions how to get people to respond?
Jeanne: Get in touch with Simon Harper (more EU based) to get
contacts to distribute
Alan: Any a11y-specific grouls that may be contacted?
<jeanne> Andrew Arch can get contacts in Australia
<jeanne> I have a contact with Hong Kong Union for the Blind
Kathy: Look at grouos worldwide to see who can distribute that
I can use our network to distribute via INCOBS and Hoerkomm
projects in germany
Kathleen: Use Twitter with a11y hashtag
Alan: Also has contacts to groups online to distribute
Alistair: is it needed in muliple languages? Use W3C country
offices ..
... Language can be a barrier
<DavidTodd> [9]https://www.facebook.com/GAGDF
[9] https://www.facebook.com/GAGDF
David: Facebook can be used to make survey better known about
Kathy: May be more difficult to recruit people in countires
outside Nortth America
... will create a recruiting list in Wiki for groups that can
be used to post the survey to worldwide
... Using multiple languages would recommend a tool that allows
multi-language surveys
Mobile Accessibility Techniques Status
<Kathy>
[10]https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/66524/20140118_survey/result
s
[10] https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/66524/20140118_survey/results
Kathy: W3C Survey to gwet allocated to WCAG Techniques to go
through them and check whether they need mods
<Kathy>
[11]https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/Draft_WCAG_Te
chniques
[11]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/Draft_WCAG_Techniques
Kathy: ANy questons?
... jsut note whether changes are needed or not
... Later work on it in a wiki
Detlev: Question about change needed for G61
Kathy: Yes, include if you thionk there *might* be need for
change
Kim: Valuable part is thought about why a change may be needed
(or not)
Alistair: Also look at W3Cs Best Practices for mobile to ensure
there is no conflict
... Recomms may be in conflict with MBP
Kim: Jan said BBC has techniques beyond W3C but ordered
differently - Jan will map BBC techniques to WCAG Success
Criteria
Jan; Anyone contacted Henny?
kathy: Yes
Jan: Mapping has been done - question is how to display it -
80% overlap - the most valuable part is specific twchniques for
iOS, Android etc
Alistair: Mobile Best Practices currently out of date - wil
they be updated?
Kathy There is a group that is working on MBP - we should
coordinate with them
Kathy: Q to Jeanne how to get in touch with group working on
MBP
<jeanne> ACTION: jeanne to talk with the W3C group that is
updating the Mobile Best Practices [recorded in
[12]http://www.w3.org/2014/02/07-mobile-a11y-minutes.html#actio
n01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-12 - Talk with the w3c group that is
updating the mobile best practices [on Jeanne F Spellman - due
2014-02-14].
Kathy: Any questions about wor on Techniques?
David: Should we send findings to group?
<Kathy>
[13]https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/General_Techn
iques
[13] https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/General_Techniques
Kathy: All to be posted on the Wiki - there are specific
instructions for editing linked from the survey
... Kim and Jeanne have gone through some already to get a cue
on how to do editing work
<Kathy>
[14]https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/Mobile_Resour
ces
[14] https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/Mobile_Resources
Mobile Resources
Kathy: Mobile resources - good list already with dates where
possible
Kim: 8 pages from Andfrew still missing
[15]http://eightmedia.github.io/hammer.js/
[15] http://eightmedia.github.io/hammer.js/
[16]http://unobfuscated.blogspot.de/2013/11/accessible-javascri
pt-gestures.html
[16]
http://unobfuscated.blogspot.de/2013/11/accessible-javascript-gestures.html
Detlev: No section on scripting specific stuff like hammer.js
etc (links above)
kathy: Just added JavaScript
Kim: Feel free to add category, if unsure, add it under misc
wILL DO
Kathleen: Request to Microsoft still unanswered...
<Kathy>
[17]https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/Third-Party_D
evelopment_Tool_Platforms
[17]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/Third-Party_Development_Tool_Platforms
Kathleen: Stuff on 3rd party add-ons?
... Apps on phone, like CodeFactory
<Kathy>
[18]https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/List_of_mobil
e_assistive_technologies,_and_the_capabilities_and_limitations
[18]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/List_of_mobile_assistive_technologies
Kathy: we can create a separate section (see link above)
... Any further thoughs on resources that are still missing?
Jeanne: Organisation and hierarchy: should be tagged so it's
easier to search
Anyone willing to look into tagging..
Kathy: Tag things - come up with a common set of tags
Jeanne: Hard part is to decide how to tag, not the technique
Kathy: first define tag list
Kim: Lets put up a Wiki page for tags
<jeanne> tags should include devices, operating systems,
assistive technology and disabilities.
<jeanne> ... everything in our hierarchy should probably be a
tag
Try to get Heinz Mehrlich to contribute resouces for LV users
<Zakim> jeanne, you wanted to discuss tagging
Kathy: We continue to work on WCAG Techniques, finalise user
survey, still think about additions to Wiki (resources)
Can someone push the minutes?
<Kathy> yes
<Kathy> thanks Jeanne
thanks!
<Kathy> Regrets Gavin
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: jeanne to talk with the W3C group that is
updating the Mobile Best Practices [recorded in
[19]http://www.w3.org/2014/02/07-mobile-a11y-minutes.html#actio
n01]
[End of minutes]
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