- From: Raphaël Troncy <raphael.troncy@eurecom.fr>
- Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 12:09:03 +0200
- To: Media Fragment <public-media-fragment@w3.org>
Dear all,
The minutes of today's phone telecon are available for review at
http://www.w3.org/2011/07/06-mediafrag-minutes.html (and in text format
below).
Raphaël
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference
06 Jul 2011
[2]Agenda
[2]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Jul/0003.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2011/07/06-mediafrag-irc
Attendees
Present
raphael, chris, davy, yves, thomas, silvia
Regrets
jack, philip
Chair
Erik, Raphael
Scribe
raphael
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]1. Admin
2. [6]2. Spec Maintenance
3. [7]3. Test Cases
4. [8]4. HTML5 liaison
5. [9]5. AOB
* [10]Summary of Action Items
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<trackbot> Date: 06 July 2011
1. Admin
PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the last week telecon,
[11]http://www.w3.org/2011/06/29-mediafrag-minutes.html
[11] http://www.w3.org/2011/06/29-mediafrag-minutes.html
<davy> +1
+1
<doublec> +1
minutes accepted
ACTION-203?
<trackbot> ACTION-203 -- Thomas Steiner to build a media fragment
URI parser in javascript -- due 2011-01-31 -- CLOSED
<trackbot>
[12]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/203
[12] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/203
ACTION-230?
<trackbot> ACTION-230 -- Raphaël Troncy to open a questionnaire for
splitting out or not (the section 5.2 of) the spec -- due 2011-06-29
-- OPEN
<trackbot>
[13]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/230
[13] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/230
close ACTION-230
<trackbot> ACTION-230 Open a questionnaire for splitting out or not
(the section 5.2 of) the spec closed
Raphael: results of the poll have shown by a short majority to not
split the spec at this stage
2. Spec Maintenance
ACTIOn-229?
<trackbot> ACTION-229 -- Raphaël Troncy to bring the CSS/SVG/Media
Fragments possible issues to the CG group -- due 2011-06-29 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[14]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/229
[14] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/229
<doublec> Sounds good
<tomayac> +1
<davy> +1
Raphael: we should perhaps say explicitely in the spec that the
behaviour of multi resolution images is undefined for media
fragments
<erik> +1
Raphael: this will address the comments from fantasai
... should we edit
[15]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-spe
c/#media-fragment-display ?
[15]
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-spec/#media-fragment-display
Yves: rather after
[16]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-spe
c/#naming-space in a note
[16]
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-spec/#naming-space
<Yves> Note that in the case of pixel-based clipping areas,
application of those areas to multi-resolution visual media is
undefined.
<Yves> (multi-resolutions)
Chris: send comments regarding the ABNF syntax of npt
Yves: indeed, the grammar is just here for validating the syntax ...
you need to do your own parsing rules to implement the grammar
... I will look at my own parser since I don't remember to have any
issues
... I will check if my grammar is in syn with the spec
<scribe> ACTION: Yves to check if his grammar is in synch with the
latest version of the spec [recorded in
[17]http://www.w3.org/2011/07/06-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-231 - Check if his grammar is in synch
with the latest version of the spec [on Yves Lafon - due
2011-07-13].
3. Test Cases
ACTION-223?
<trackbot> ACTION-223 -- Raphaël Troncy to start up a thread for
discussion and approval of all test cases for the UA for the
temporal dimension -- due 2011-06-15 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[18]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/223
[18] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/223
close ACTION-223
<trackbot> ACTION-223 Start up a thread for discussion and approval
of all test cases for the UA for the temporal dimension closed
Raphael: no discussion on this thread?
... does it mean you *all* agree?
Davy: if I remember, Opera has some facility to run a test suite and
test the browser
Chris: we have also a framework to run a test suite
<doublec>
[19]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/TC/ua-test-cases
[19] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/TC/ua-test-cases
Chris: I will look at how the TC are written in a machine readable
way
<davy>
[20]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/TC/ua-test-cases.n3
[20] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/TC/ua-test-cases.n3
<davy>
[21]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/TC/ua-test-cases.rdf
[21] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/TC/ua-test-cases.rdf
<scribe> ACTION: Chris to use the machine readable descriptions of
the test cases (n3, rdf) for adapting to the Mozilla test suite
framework [recorded in
[22]http://www.w3.org/2011/07/06-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-232 - Use the machine readable
descriptions of the test cases (n3, rdf) for adapting to the Mozilla
test suite framework [on Chris Double - due 2011-07-13].
<doublec> Ok, thanks
Thread to consider
[23]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Ju
n/0050.html
[23]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Jun/0050.html
<silvia> I haven't reviewed the recent list either - I did lots
earlier - Chris's suggestion sounds good
Raphael: 34 remaining TC that should be valid
Chris: I can take the range 66 to 94 and write to the list by
tomorrow
<tomayac> can you simply assign them? raphael?
Silvia: I do 27 to 65
Thomas: I do 6 to 26
Raphael: we review those batches next week depending on the problems
encountered
4. HTML5 liaison
Raphael: what is the overall HTML5 timeline?
Silvia: I haven't look at our bugs since a while
[24]http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10723
[24] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10723
<doublec> I'll comment in 10723 what I plan to implement
thanks Chris
Raphael: loop attribute, will it be deprecated?
[25]http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12426
[25] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12426
Chris: we can revisit the loop attribute by changing to the in media
element
... int fragment
... I will edit the bug with this
<silvia>
[26]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011May/0162.htm
l
[26] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011May/0162.html
<doublec> Yep, I'll comment on the bugs after the call
Raphael: should we organize a group review of the HTML5 spec?
... or will the bugs entered be enough?
<doublec> I think the entered bugs are enough
<tomayac> i guess we're fine w/ the entered bugs
Silvia: I'm not keen to do a full review of the spec, this is a lot
of reading
5. AOB
Silvia: when we transition to CR?
Raphael: just after CSS review of the spec
... exiting CR will require to have 2 implementations for all
features, some features might get out of the spec if they are not
implemented
... all implementations count (from the group and from outsiders)
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Chris to use the machine readable descriptions of the
test cases (n3, rdf) for adapting to the Mozilla test suite
framework [recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2011/07/06-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Yves to check if his grammar is in synch with the
latest version of the spec [recorded in
[28]http://www.w3.org/2011/07/06-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01]
[End of minutes]
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Raphaël Troncy
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