minutes of 2011-12-14 teleconference

Dear all,

For the record, the minutes of today's phone telecon is ready for review 
at http://www.w3.org/2011/12/14-mediafrag-minutes.html (and in text 
format below).

   Raphaël

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    [1]W3C
       [1] http://www.w3.org/
              Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference
14 Dec 2011
    [2]Agenda
       [2] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Dec/0008.html
    See also: [3]IRC log
       [3] http://www.w3.org/2011/12/14-mediafrag-irc
Attendees
    Present
           Erik, Raphael, Yves, Silvia, Thomas, Davy
    Regrets
    Chair
           Erik, Raphael
    Scribe
           Raphael
Contents
      * [4]Topics
          1. [5]1. ADMIN
          2. [6]2. SPEC
          3. [7]3. TEST CASES AND IMPLEMENTATIONS
          4. [8]4. UPDATE ACTION LIST
          5. [9]5. AOB
      * [10]Summary of Action Items
      _________________________________________________________

    <trackbot> Date: 14 December 2011

1. ADMIN

    <scribe> Scribe: Raphael

    <scribe> Scribenick: raphael

    <tomayac> +1

    <erik> +1

    <Yves> +1

    PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the last telecon:
    [11]http://www.w3.org/2011/12/07-mediafrag-minutes.html

      [11] http://www.w3.org/2011/12/07-mediafrag-minutes.html

    +1

    minutes accepted

    <silvia> +1

2. SPEC

    Erik: splitting the document to remove the features at risk

    ACTIOn-247?

    <trackbot> ACTION-247 -- Raphaël Troncy to mail the group about the
    decision of what will be in the spec and what will not -- due
    2011-12-14 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [12]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/247

      [12] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/247

    <tomayac> +1 for splitting, as explained in the email

    close ACTION-247

    <trackbot> ACTION-247 Mail the group about the decision of what will
    be in the spec and what will not closed

    See
    [13]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011De
    c/0009.html

      [13] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Dec/0009.html

    Erik: +1 from Silvia on the mailing list

    <silvia> I'm supportive, too :-) indeed

    Erik: Philip asked what are the interoperable implementations of
    #xywh
    ... if we look at the implementation reports, this is clear

    <Yves> I wonder about recipes vs adjuncts as a name, but that's
    pretty minor (as we stuff more things that the network related
    recipes)

    Raphael: there is also a clear usage plan from the CSS/SVG community
    ... I agree with that Yves, and more because there will be more
    dimensions in this document, thus my proposal to named it "advanced"
    ... we can discuss about the short name

    [14]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-imp
    l/

      [14] 
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-impl/

    <Yves> in a way, SMPTE and clock _could_ be kept in the first one
    (as flavours of 'time' dimension), but ok to move them to advanced

    Erik: 2 implementations from the report, js implementation from
    Thomas and Ninsuna from IBBT

    <tomayac> i would push them to advanced, and only keep npt, too

    Raphael: there is also an implementation, although not tested, from
    the Europeana community

    <Yves> xywh should be kept, IMHO

    <erik> +1 to Yves (from both Davy & Erik)

    Philip: (from the mailing list) I have questioned the validity of a
    polyphil (the mediafragment.js) implementation as a valid one we
    should consider

    <tomayac> +1 for keeping xywh from my side, too

    Erik: everybody except Philip clearly votes for considering that
    #xywh has sufficient support and implementations

    ACTION-249?

    <trackbot> ACTION-249 -- Raphaël Troncy to tidy up the spec before
    December 24th -- due 2011-12-14 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [15]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/249

      [15] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/249

    scribe: still open

    Raphael: I have booked 2 full days next week to do it

    ACTIOn-248?

    <trackbot> ACTION-248 -- Erik Mannens to write a mail with our
    timeline to check approval with Philippe -- due 2011-12-14 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [16]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/248

      [16] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/248

    close ACTION-248

    <trackbot> ACTION-248 Write a mail with our timeline to check
    approval with Philippe closed

    Erik: Philip indicates in an email that he supports the transition
    to PR in early January given the recent progress of the working
    group
    ... Philip also asked to do the PR request on the 2nd / 3rd January
    ... and have the transition call on January 8-9

    Yves: yep

    <tomayac> +1 for the suggested timeline

    <erik> ok for Erik too

    ok for me

    <silvia> ok for me

3. TEST CASES AND IMPLEMENTATIONS

    ACTIOn-250?

    <trackbot> ACTION-250 -- Davy Van Deursen to tidy up the
    implementation report before December 24th -- due 2011-12-14 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [17]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/250

      [17] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/250

    Erik: let's keep the action open, there is still a bit tidy up to do

    Raphael: propose to rename the sections into something like
    "Implementation Report for Media Fragments Basics" and
    "Implementation Report for Media Fragments Advanced"
    ... to match the 2 new documents

    ACTION-251?

    <trackbot> ACTION-251 -- Erik Mannens to contact the Europeana
    developers to check the feasibility of having a new implementation
    report -- due 2011-12-14 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [18]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/251

      [18] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/251

    Erik: I contacted them, and get a reply, confirming that they
    support media fragments (spatial and soon temporal)
    ... no implementation report yet
    ... I will continue to chase them

    ACTION-245?

    <trackbot> ACTION-245 -- Raphaël Troncy to clarify whether
    Dailymotion will provide an implementation or not -- due 2011-12-07
    -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [19]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/245

      [19] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/245

    I'm finalizing an email

    scribe: explaining what DM currently supports and does not support
    ... in details

    Raphael: we keep the action open, and let the possibility that DM
    might be able to be on time to produce an implementation report
    partial before the end of the year

4. UPDATE ACTION LIST

    ACTION-240

    ACTION-240?

    <trackbot> ACTION-240 -- Raphaël Troncy to create a first draft of
    this page on the wiki before designing the web site -- due
    2011-10-12 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [20]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/240

      [20] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/240

    Raphael: I own mediafragments.org
    ... plan to implement a simple portal to showcase the existing
    applications / implementations
    ... will be do next year
    ... for now, distribute a call for being aware of the existing
    implementations
    ... I will start to edit this wiki page

5. AOB

    Erik: silence

    <tomayac> regrets for next week

    <tomayac> on vacation already

    [meeting adjourned]

    <tomayac> regrets for the phoneconf on the 28th then

    <silvia> bye!

Summary of Action Items

    [End of minutes]
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